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Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads

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Post by busymom0 »

Trias11 wrote: post #34
busymom0 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But NEVER rely on any propriately platform for your business. You're NOT in control. While I agree with the premise of your comment, a lot of times, this is pretty much impossible to be done. If a developer gets suspended by Google or other companies like VISA, PayPal etc, it's pretty much impossible to do business then. There needs to be an internet bill of rights which should take care of these things.

>> If a developer gets suspended by Google or other companies like VISA, PayPal etc ... Then support multiple payment processors. Be present in more than 1 platform. Etc ...

If VISA/mastercard/paypal take you off, then it's game over for you. Bitcoin maybe.

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Post by nkozyra »

bambax wrote: post #229
nkozyra wrote: post #28

It really does feel like there's a day of reckoning coming for services that can boot you with one fell swoop. And unfortunately it's unlikely to come from the source or from a general public appeal, but from government intervention. My adsense account was banned years ago. No details, no receptiveness to appeals. It's the kind of thing that's kept me from some personal/professional pursuits because I know there's a…

> unfortunately it's unlikely to come from the source or from a general public appeal, but from government intervention Not unfortunately. Hopefully. Government doesn't work very well, but still much better than all those huge private companies. There are appeals, for one.

I think it's unfortunate not that government is involved but that they'd have to be involved because Google is uninterested in improving this policy and its customers lack the voice to compel them.

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Post by ElectricMind »

You create a monster (Google, Facebook etc..) then you cry for help when it comes bite your own hand? This one is on America and "American dream" Sorry I meant "American greed". Maybe both are same? Unfortunately whole world suffer as always -_-

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Post by bitL »

CGamesPlay wrote: post #7

I'd extend this even further: never use a single account for more than one purpose. Create a separate account at the same company for the other purpose. Some examples: - Every product/project you manage should be on a separate account on Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. - Nothing tied to your consumer accounts should be used for anything business related. - Your Amazon shopping account and your AWS account should defin…

Amazon groups accounts they think they belong to the same person and when one is banned, they band them all. Just ask 3rd party marketplace sellers. I doubt G/FB aren't doing the same.

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Post by philliphaydon »

KorematsuFred wrote: post #70
o-__-o wrote: post #43

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> Creating a subsidiary business for every type of Google account you have would be quite expensive Costs roughly $1000/yr to run a properly sheltered LLC. Just saying, that’s a low barrier to overcome for any company turning modest revenue.

We have done this in past. At one point we had 4 LLCs with 4 adsense accounts each making $30K per day. There was nothing fishy here it was perfectly legal and 100% legitimate traffic. Over time we even split our large website into multiple domains under these 4 accounts to make them profitable. Google eventually banned all 4 over time without ever telling us why. We shut down out company eventually.

I had several domains once for a couple of ideas I was working on, due to them taking about a year to do as it was just personal thing I did in spare time in between playing games and attempting to have a life, I decided to domain park them with Adsense.

I set them up. Clicked on each one once to make sure it worked. Closed it. Didn’t open the domains again.

Week later banned from Adsense for click fraud…

I don’t get it. But I really hate Google now.

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Post by palebluedot »

deadmutex wrote: post #40
GoOnThenDoTell wrote: post #8

Google needs a general support line that doesn’t involve a Medium post making the HN front page

For consumers, there is one for Google One subscribers: https://one.google.com/about/support

Yeah, but can you access Google One support if your account is banned?

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Post by squiggleblaz »

andi999 wrote: post #242
wwn_se wrote: post #212

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If you are just paying a couple of $100 a month for app related stuff you can just use a new bank if you want and just transfer the amount needed each month. Opening accounts is something banks really like when you do so its usually not hard.

Don't you have to name the account after a real or legal person?

Depends on the country. A well regulated bank has to know who the real or legal person behind the account is, but that doesn't necessarily mean the name of the bank account has to correspond to the name on a birth certificate. It's the business of the state to make sure they can tax you, but it isn't the business of the state to make sure Google can ban you.

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Post by mytherin »

CrendKing wrote: post #225
mytherin wrote: post #140

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The reason government is treated differently from companies in that regard is because the government has a natural monopoly in many areas. You cannot choose an alternative government, you are forced to deal with the one there is. When companies hold monopoly status (which Google absolutely does), there is also no real, viable alternative to choose from. When publishing on Android, realistically you are forced to deal…

I agree with you. But legally speaking, Google is not monopolizing until they actually lose an antitrust case. So before that happens, if anyone wants to play the game legally, they have to abide to Google's ToS, no matter how absurd it is, no?

No, they are not convicted of monopolising until they lose an antitrust case. That doesn't mean they aren't monopolising right now, it just means there hasn't been a verdict set against them for illegal monopolisation. Cases such as these (and discussing cases such as these) will help in mounting evidence against Google for abuse of their monopoly position.

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Post by quickthrower2 »

BMorearty wrote: post #127

Four months ago a friend of mine had his Google account suspended with a vague message about a terms of service violation. He escalated and appealed it with my help. It was no use. He lost everything. Files. Photos. Email. Calendar. Even his business domain registrations. He was paying for Google services like YouTube and storage. He couldn’t even get a download of his data. This is why I never used Google Cloud. I’v…

If you are on Google do a regular takeout [α] in preparation for a future ban. It exports everything. Easiest way to back it all up and gives you time to wean off Google.

α: https://takeout.google.com/

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Post by teddyh »

benhurmarcel wrote: post #222
bogwog wrote: post #4

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Stories like this always scare me because they remind me that all of my domain names are on Google domains, including the one I use for my work email address. I gotta migrate out one of these days.

Another unsolicited recommendation: Gandi.net. I've been quite happy with them.

Gandi had a major outage a mere week ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26862162
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