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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Never called you a snowflake, but your whole framing of the situation reads exactly like what a journo would write while lacking any semblance of understanding of the source material beyond just the surface level. >what you're doing is gaslighting How does me saying that the 4chan isn't as white-dominated as you say it is (with a hard proof, given that you can literally take a look at pictures from irl meetups from b…

> But there are definitely occasional gems in the rough that can be found there that cannot be found elsewhere. Can you give an example of a gem? I've only seen the racist trash side (that's certainly what's on the board as of right now).

Well, for just a singular example from /pol/ (since it isn't a board I frequent much at all given the super low signal-to-noise ratio, I prefer more hobby-specific boards, such as /o/ for car-motorcycle discussions and /mu/ for music-related stuff), people there were looking into and brought upon pedophilic allegations against Peter Bright years before he got actually charged with those (which actually happened just last year[0]). Mind you, not claiming that 4chan had anything to do with the guy getting eventually caught. But the fact that they had those allegations with basic reasoning and evidence before there was even a whiff of it in public is definitely something.

Or when they had "journalists" from big publications trying to go there and interview people on the boards, they got fed so much misleading and obviously bs info on purpose before being chased away, it was definitely entertaining to observe. Especially given how obvious it was that the "journalists" in question came in there with a very specific narrative in mind already, and it all got crumbled pretty much in real time.

Not even mentioning stuff like a solution to a novel math problem (which other commenters have already mentioned), which ended up being cited and is relevant to actual ongoing research in a specific math area.[1]

Do those things count as "gems"? That's purely subjective. But that's the kind of stuff I personally appreciate seeing there.

0. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-journalist-convi...

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpermutation#Lower_bounds,...

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

#252

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They are agitators and trolls, and you took the bait.

Are the posters in this thread arguing that George Floyd was a junkie, trolls too? There is a ton of legitimate white supremacy here masked by "trolling". It's just a convenient cover, but the beliefs are authentically held.

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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

#253

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In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

There were better days, many years ago... eventually all not heavily moderated communities will suffer their version of Eternal September. Communities with no moderation at all sans removing child porn and copyrighted content (to avoid getting v8 by the feds) will always be overtaken sooner or later by the content you just listed because this sort of stuff gets driven out of communities that care about at least some…

Agree 100% with every word you wrote.

    eventually all not heavily moderated communities 
    will suffer their version of Eternal September.
4chan really is the ultimate example of what happens to unmoderated free speech zones. It really was better, once upon a time.

Unfortunately, it's hard to cite 4chan as an example when talking about the merits of unrestricted free speech vs. moderation/curation since most people think it was always that bad.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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> But there are definitely occasional gems in the rough that can be found there that cannot be found elsewhere. Can you give an example of a gem? I've only seen the racist trash side (that's certainly what's on the board as of right now).

Well, for just a singular example from /pol/ (since it isn't a board I frequent much at all given the super low signal-to-noise ratio, I prefer more hobby-specific boards, such as /o/ for car-motorcycle discussions and /mu/ for music-related stuff), people there were looking into and brought upon pedophilic allegations against Peter Bright years before he got actually charged with those (which actually happened just…

Trolling journalists doesn't sound like "gems", it sounds like a waste of time (and I'm no fan of most journalists).

The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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There is an argument being made by many on the right that the overdose was his actual cause of death because he spoke of not being able to breath etc before he was restrained & had a large amount of fentanyl in his system. That being said, the initial autopsy said this was only one factor and most people with this view are misreading that autopsy, which still stated the primary cause of death was compression of the n…

the autopsy report said he had a heart failure "complicating" restraint. When asked to clarify coroner said he meant in medical sense, as in "heart failure complicating leg surgery", i.e. his death was not expected from restraint itself

In the U.S., it's still murder and/or manslaughter (depends on jurisdiction) if you physically assault somebody and they die as a result, even if your physical assault was not the sole reason they died.

I'm not even making a moral argument here. That's the letter of the law. (Again, laws vary by state)

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

#256

It's hilarious after all these years shitty journalists still believe Anonymous is a hacker group rather than just some kids trolling. I mean imagine if Facebook had the option to be anonymous somehow on their platform and called everyone Unnamed who hadn't finished their registration or didn't want to. You'd see Unnamed responsible for nation-state sponsored terrorism and manipulating the votes of other countries. W…

Curious definition of 'kids trolling', I have to say.

DDoS attacks as well as actual hacks were performed in the name of 'Anonymous', and at the time of the Stratfor hack, various LulzSec members were already in their late twenties...

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

#257

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Well, for just a singular example from /pol/ (since it isn't a board I frequent much at all given the super low signal-to-noise ratio, I prefer more hobby-specific boards, such as /o/ for car-motorcycle discussions and /mu/ for music-related stuff), people there were looking into and brought upon pedophilic allegations against Peter Bright years before he got actually charged with those (which actually happened just…

Trolling journalists doesn't sound like "gems", it sounds like a waste of time (and I'm no fan of most journalists). The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol.

>The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol.

It wasn't supposed to, I just posted it for the context of the court case I was talking about. It would be more weird if the court decision included those, since they didn't contribute to his arrest or anything.

If you are curious, you are welcome to go to any 4chan archiver websites and search for his name to see those conversations.

>Trolling journalists doesn't sound like "gems", it sounds like a waste of time (and I'm no fan of most journalists).

What sounds like a waste of time to you might sound like good entertainment to others. If anything, I would say that the "journalist" going directly to 4chan and attempting to "interview" people there was much more of a waste of time.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

#258

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In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

They are agitators and trolls, and you took the bait.

Are you familiar with the rule of goats?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

#259

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In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

They are agitators and trolls, and you took the bait.

This statement is simultaneously both true and false.

It's true in that yes they are agitators and trolls.

But it's false in that the line between unserious troll and serious activist was blurred or erased long ago, and most recently with Trump being elected president.

It's no longer possible to distinguish between unserious troll attempt and serious statement when such a large audience subscribes to the trolling as their actual reality.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

#260

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Trolling journalists doesn't sound like "gems", it sounds like a waste of time (and I'm no fan of most journalists). The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol.

>The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol. It wasn't supposed to, I just posted it for the context of the court case I was talking about. It would be more weird if the court decision included those, since they didn't contribute to his arrest or anything. If you are curious, you are welcome to go to any 4chan archiver websites and search for his name to see those conversations. >Trolling journalists…

You claimed there was something beyond the surface level racism and white supremacy, but you haven't really provided that. Trolling journalists doesn't make them any less racist, especially when they use racism for trolling.

There doesn't seem to be anything "deeper". Just straight up white supremacy.

[EDIT] (since I'm now throttled for some reason)

You can go on /pol right now and see it's full of white supremacy and hate. You claimed there's some deeper meaning to all of that. There's not though, it is exactly what it looks like.

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