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Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by lucb1e »

lobocinza wrote: post #224

I switched to AntennaPod and VLC. I realized I don't need algorithmic recommendations or streaming. I know what I want and my phone has plenty free space.

Also, for anyone who (like me) doesn't regularly keep up with micro-SD prices, you may be happy to find that 128GB cards are now dirt cheap. You don't have to juggle what's on your phone anymore.

I don't know when this happened, but that's multiple months' worth of audio with all your internal storage free for pictures or the like.

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by lucb1e »

nxpnsv wrote: post #50

I like Spotify for music. But i hate it for other content. I like overcast for podcasts. It’s not just ui, i like having separate channels separate. I wouldn’t want my movie in Spotify either.

They also integrated it in the dumbest way ever. You have to click music on the bottom and then move your finger all the way to the top of the screen to click podcasts, then wait for the animation, and then finally you can click on downloads, wait for that to load (requires internet for some reason), and select what you want to play.

Antennapod made me lose track of things (too many views if I remember correctly, been a few years) and had UX issues of its own, but I'm seriously considering switching back. I've unsubscribed from anything that's Spotify exclusive because I hate walled gardens (I'm happy to pay Spotify a cut to listen to and pay artists, but not if then nobody else who doesn't have Spotify can't listen to those artists, too) so that's not what's keeping me in anyhow.

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Post by sexy_seedbox »

klelatti wrote: post #33

Joe who? Seriously, I think that there are a number of reasons why this won't pan out as predicted: - There aren't really any tent-pole, must listen podcasts. They thought Joe Rogan was one but I'm hearing a lot of people have stopped listening to him on Spotify (I have). - Spotify (and others) don't have the money to buy out the whole podcast ecosystem and many podcast makers I think would resist going Spotify exclu…

Lex Fridman's podcast is much better if you want something more intellectual.

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Post by lucb1e »

lchengify wrote: post #128

I run a small podcast. Over the past year I've watched as my traffic has slowly shifted from Apple being completely dominant (> 90% of traffic), to it being a 70/30 split between Spotify and Apple. My honest take on the situation is that Apple has let its podcast ecosystem languish, and Spotify is moving in to build the product users actually want. Here's just a handful of things Apple has failed to address to podcas…

> with no regard for the actual spoken content of the podcast.

As far as I've noticed, Spotify doesn't do that either. I tried finding stuff topically by using the search once or twice but it's basically like typing "the" or "and" into duckduckgo and seeing what comes up.

> Second-rate sync'ing between web, laptop, and mobile players for listeners

Spotify doesn't sync between devices either. There's no way to see what's in my to-listen queue (phone downloads), and marking individual episodes as "my episodes" (something I don't use because it takes more steps than downloading does and I want them offline anyway) was added only very recently.

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Post by peteretep »

edgyquant wrote: post #168
rchaud wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Joe Rogan will occasionally have guests that attract people who wouldn't otherwise be interested in common JRE topics. In my case, it was podcasts with Billy Corgan and Shirley Manson (of Smashing Pumpkins and Garbage, respectively). I enjoyed those episodes a lot, plus a few he has with comedians I find funny. But it wasn't enough to make me subscribe. I doubt there is any podcast that I consider indispensable enoug…

The only podcasts I listen religiously are the intelligence by the economist and revolutions by Mike Duncan. I can listen to the intelligence via the economist app and Revolutions is ending this year (and I get it through the standard podcast app on iOS.)

The Economist's iOS app means I have started listening to their podcast many many many times without wanting to. Particularly irritated when browsing in bed next to a sleeping wife.

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Post by King-Aaron »

There's a couple of podcasts I listen to on Spotify (I'm already paying for premium, so might as well). The main two are Lorehammer and The Smoking Tyre. I didn't mind it too much until their latest UI update that killed the ability to see which episodes you've listened to previously. That absolutely drives me nuts.

Its more maddening that I'm friends with one of the devs, and he just laughs when I complain :P

Re: Spotify is killing the open podcast ecosystem (2020)

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Post by lucb1e »

raverbashing wrote: post #10

Whenever I can I listen to podcasts on their original websites. But there's usually one downside: their players are bad (seeking, skipping forwards/backwards) (I am also aware that bandwidth/deployment is not so easy for small producers)

> bandwidth/deployment is not so easy for small producers

I don't get this one. Isn't that extraordinarily easy when you're small? Host it on a raspberry pi at home if you have fiber, or if you need to pay for bandwidth that's on the order of $5 for 10k downloads, assuming 100 minutes of 128kbps mp3 (insert napkin math disclaimer).

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Post by hackerbabz »

mrweasel wrote: post #35

Do Spotify actually manage to sell any significant number of subscriptions due to podcasts? Personally when ever I hear about an interesting podcast, and it's followed by "available on Spotify/Podimo, whatever", my reaction is always: Okay, never mind then. There are so many great podcasts on the open web. Those available on platforms like Spotify always seems to be people with existing celebrity status trying to "ca…

I only use Spotify because the Last Podcast Network went exclusive.

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Post by kbenson »

fargo wrote: post #232
kbenson wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a few I've considered indispensable that have shifted over time. Reply All is consistently good (but I'm a couple months behind at this point, less podcast time). Dan Carlin's Hardcore History is a treat when it comes out, but that's like every 4-6 months usually. This is only a test from tested.com is good, and even though it's weekly it's topical enough I can skip a week or two and not feel like I need to go…

spoiler alert: reply all is unfortunately dead

Well, that's sad. :/
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