Considering how entrenched Docker has been in global tech infrastructure for so many years, I automatically assumed that the company was worth billions already, but guess not. I wonder why they haven't been bought out by Microsoft or Google, if nothing else then just for the talent.
Docker Raises $23M
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Re: Docker Raises $23M
#252Interesting to see this called a Series B. Did Docker hit reset after the split? Here's a separate thread for "Docker Series B: More Fuel To Help Dev Teams Get Ship Done" - with a bit more info on what the plan is from Scott. Interesting to see this news on the same day that "We don't need Docker" was also on the front page of Hacker News. I think we absolutely still need Docker in 2021. https://news.ycombinator.com/…
As a 10+ years old company / YC company + significant amount of market share, I was expecting Docket to be like series D-F or even going public. Wondering if it is actually common for companies in CA to be like that...
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Is there any profit to be gained from knowing which repositories are the most active? Which get downloaded the most? I mean... you'd think there would be some "market research" type of thing that could be sold, but now that I think about it more, I'm not sure. I assume most of the repositories are either OSS that are pulled a ton, or are pulled by an individual or small team. I'm not sure what the business opportunit…
There's definitely this, but it's more of a thing that I'd expect Deloitte or a consultancy to want. There's a huge amount of traction here: undiscovered gems, trends in adoption of new technology, etc. There's also a lot of things they aren't tapping. Just from a security POV alone, a "dependabot for Docker" would probably do a lot for the ecosystem, but hasn't yet happened.
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In the macos case, they actually are. docker runs in a vm on macos. Actually, I believe one text file is the docker killer feature.
Nowhere in what makes a proper container does a VM come into play, unless we are speaking about Docker and the idea of shipping a full blown OS in a zip, to work across heterogeneous hardware.
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It is obvious. This is a common pattern: 1. Offer open-source 100% free product that's absolutely ground breaking, unlike anything else. 2. Get a shitload of users and free PR machine gets rolling. Network effects kick in. 3. Go to investors with your active user count in excess of millions. 4. Investors go bonkers and their eyes swell up with all the ways they can exploit these addicted-to-free user base. 5. Company…
> absolutely ground breaking, unlike anything else Containers existed for decades as a concept and for years on Linux (using lxc or VirtSquare and later nspawn)
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Looks like original Docker did Series E in 2017: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/docker/company_finan... This is apparently "new/restructured Docker" which did Series A in 2019. From the footnote in the article: https://www.docker.com/press-release/docker-new-direction It does seem weird to just start the letters over like that, as if it's a new hot startup.
Doing a series H might make investors think harder about why they need 8 rounds of funding over 12 years or so and still didn't manage to turn a profit.
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It is obvious. This is a common pattern: 1. Offer open-source 100% free product that's absolutely ground breaking, unlike anything else. 2. Get a shitload of users and free PR machine gets rolling. Network effects kick in. 3. Go to investors with your active user count in excess of millions. 4. Investors go bonkers and their eyes swell up with all the ways they can exploit these addicted-to-free user base. 5. Company…
> when Amazon swiped the rug from under them. Good. > I have zero empathy for these companies and their investors. Are you trolling? Or do you want to see all amazing open source tech move behind closed doors and payed walled gardens?
F/OSS software works best when it's not a revenue source of the business that develops it. "Hey, I ran into $problem at $work and created $project to fix it! I'm giving it away so that it might solve your problem too! Hit me up on $mailing_list if you want to contribute." Red Hat is pretty much the poster child of this model. They make $0 on all the FOSS software they develop and release to the world but they dogfood it into their own products to collect dividends.
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So 1/4 to 3/4 of a million per year in salary. Plus disrupting all the developers. So far every large scale implementation i have seen has cost the developers a year in productivity.
Hi. I run my production 7 figure ARR SaaS platform on google hosted k8s. I spend under 10 minutes a week on kubernetes. Basically give it an hour every few months. Otherwise it is just a super awesome super stable way for me to run a bunch of bin-packed docker images. I think it’s saved me tons of time and money over lambda or ECS. It’s not F500 scale, but it’s over 100 CPU scale. Confident I have a ton of room to sc…
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like original Docker did Series E in 2017: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/docker/company_finan... This is apparently "new/restructured Docker" which did Series A in 2019. From the footnote in the article: https://www.docker.com/press-release/docker-new-direction It does seem weird to just start the letters over like that, as if it's a new hot startup.
Doing a series H might make investors think harder about why they need 8 rounds of funding over 12 years or so and still didn't manage to turn a profit.
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#260It feels like Docker (Inc) is becoming less and less "relevant" for each year that passes. At least from my perspective, they led the popularisation of containerisation and the whole cattle-not-pets approach of deploying apps. They created big and long lasting change in the industry. But they seem to have lost the production environment race to Kubernetes, at least for now. They are the biggest player in the dev-mach…
> They are the biggest player in the dev-machine market, but more alternatives are popping up making it even harder to monetise. As someone who loves the feature set of Docker for development but grows increasingly disillusioned with its performance on Mac, would you mind elaborating what these alternatives are?
https://github.com/VMwareFusion/vctl-docs/blob/master/docs/g...
Looks like it supports doing some kubernetes stuff using a `kind` cluster.
I've had pretty good experiences with Fusion, so, yeah, there's some real Docker alternatives up and coming. I think Docker's great, though, and I feel that we'd never have seen a `vctl` on a mac without it's existence.