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Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#251
It's been fixed: https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/137123558771858227...

> A number of accounts that Tweeted the word “Memphis” were temporarily limited due to a bug. It’s been fixed and the accounts have now been restored. We’re sorry this happened.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The company" hasn't tweeted about this either at https://twitter.com/twitter or https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport . Link or it didn't happen.

Hot off the press, it's official now: https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/137123558771858227...

Thanks. (In case people wander by later, this was tweeted half an hour after my post above, and the OP has made it clear in a parallel subthread that they were referring to something that was later admitted to be a hoax by the perpetrator.)

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Ugh...I have a HN Twitter bot that just tried to post this and it got locked. https://www.twitter.com/hackernewstop10

The reason for the ban is “revealing private information”. It seems to be related to a Dutch soccer player Memphis Depay. https://twitter.com/OL_English/status/1371121328649076744

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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post #34

Twitter has increasingly slid into user-hostile territory. I moderate /r/Twitter on reddit and we have a pinned thread just showing nothing but complaint after complaint, because content moderation is a failure when you attempt to scale it. We'd like to get Twitter Comms to address it at some point, but the company is opaque. It's just nuts.

Content moderation is trivially easy when your users pay for it or have skin in the game. Making accounts paid would immediately fix the problem as few people would want to risk losing real money. Content moderation only becomes a problem where your business model is "growth and engagement" and your revenue depends on your users generating as much content as possible.

If skin in the game was a guarantee we would have no crime. Spammers, astroturfers, and scammers already spend real money to get their message out for their purposes.

Real name polices already failed at their stated purpose even after people losing their job over tweets and Facebook posts was a well known things. Whatever fee people would be willing to pay wouldn't cut it. Hell it didn't work even on the infamous SomethingAwful!

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Content moderation is trivially easy when your users pay for it or have skin in the game. Making accounts paid would immediately fix the problem as few people would want to risk losing real money. Content moderation only becomes a problem where your business model is "growth and engagement" and your revenue depends on your users generating as much content as possible.

If skin in the game was a guarantee we would have no crime. Spammers, astroturfers, and scammers already spend real money to get their message out for their purposes. Real name polices already failed at their stated purpose even after people losing their job over tweets and Facebook posts was a well known things. Whatever fee people would be willing to pay wouldn't cut it. Hell it didn't work even on the infamous Som…

It's not a guarantee but it's much better than what we have now.

All the issues you mention were successfully dealt with on the forums of the good old days with much less resources (moderation done by volunteers and very little technical expertise - definitely no machine learning).

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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post #34

Twitter has increasingly slid into user-hostile territory. I moderate /r/Twitter on reddit and we have a pinned thread just showing nothing but complaint after complaint, because content moderation is a failure when you attempt to scale it. We'd like to get Twitter Comms to address it at some point, but the company is opaque. It's just nuts.

Unpopular opinion: I am not sure if I come to the the same conclusion (that Twitter is user-hostile). Even if you see "complaint after complaint". It could be actually true that the complaint ratio is going down, because the # of users or engagement is actually growing. I am not saying I know the rate, but I don't think we can rule that possibility out. As a thought exercise, if you assume there is 1% chance of someo…

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Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/13711918852686725... > What's possible is a Twitter staffer tried to block a street address, but the postal syntax acted as an escape sequence, or the original was multi-line and they only pasted the city. What postal syntax in the US looks like an escape sequence?

I got blocked too, and so was referring to the ancient Egyptian city. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis,_Egypt

IIRC, Memphis, TN was named after the great city in Egypt and even has a Pyramid, although it may be a shopping center.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a fair argument but only if you embrace the logical conclusion of the stance you are taking. If you are arguing for unbridled free speech then fair enough (Personally I wouldn't but we can have that conversaion). If however you have your own feelings about sane limits on free speech - then you can't take this position without someone else using your argument against you. It's fine to make these kind of grand s…

I think the parent might have been sarcastic. Hard to tell in text only. I read the last line as "pOlIcInG hAtE sPeEch" with USA being the butt of the joke.

Yes, I was being sarcastic. Missed adding a /s

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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post #34

Twitter has increasingly slid into user-hostile territory. I moderate /r/Twitter on reddit and we have a pinned thread just showing nothing but complaint after complaint, because content moderation is a failure when you attempt to scale it. We'd like to get Twitter Comms to address it at some point, but the company is opaque. It's just nuts.

Content moderation is trivially easy when your users pay for it or have skin in the game. Making accounts paid would immediately fix the problem as few people would want to risk losing real money. Content moderation only becomes a problem where your business model is "growth and engagement" and your revenue depends on your users generating as much content as possible.

If users are paying, you run into lawsuit territory when you try to censor them for their views. Not necessarily because you can't stop doing business with the person who you decide is an enemy of the people, but because you are still taking all the money of their followers and others who signed up to read their tweets. So accepting money would require a moderation policy that didn't change every other week but was clear and upfront in terms of what business services were being sold.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

The old internet with webforums for particular topics, where the moderators knew the posters, was a better model.

This works well with reddit. Each community has a different moderation style, often aided by bots. If you don't like a community or its moderation, you can look for another community or create your own, as it frequently happens.

Reddit has its problems, but I think such a federated moderation system is a decent solution for larger websites. However, you need to provide the moderators with the right tools to enforce their rules. Throwaways were a bit of a problem on our humble subreddit, as were link spammers.

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