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Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

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59.774Hz? That's a huge frequency error. I saw 59.6 go by. 29.5 seconds behind. Those are load-shedding levels. Unusually cold weather and heat pumps. Ouch.

Back up to 60.080. They'll run a little fast if they can to make the remaining synchronous clocks catch up.

Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

#252

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No, not really. As far as I'm aware HVDC links are more efficient than AC links (even with AC/DC/AC conversion).

It looks like a tradeoff. The only place in the world doing a significant amount of long distance transmission is China. Their wind and coal resources are in the west, and demand is in the east, and transporting coal by rail just further increases air quality problems in the east. Based on what they are implementing, HVDC make sense at 800km+, and AC for shorter runs. I think it comes down to HVDC requires less condu…

The Pacific DC Intertie was the biggest in the world until the Three Gorges stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_DC_Intertie

More interestingly--it dates to the Kennedy Administration.

Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

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The second link says: "each utility is required to lower the demand on its system based on its percentage of the historic ERCOT peak demand. "each utility is responsible for determining how to implement the required demand reduction, most utilities use rotating outages for this purpose." There's about 25 different utilities, so who knows what each does. I'm surprised voltage reduction isn't used. It's very effective…

The grid has basically zero capability to change the voltage; frequency is all that matters. Frequency is so low that in the past hour any power line time base has fallen over 5.5 seconds behind. That’s a massive drop in frequency.

No, voltage can be dropped a bit. "Brownouts" are a thing. But they're less effective than they used to be, because everything with a switching power supply will draw more current if the input voltage drops. That's now a big fraction of the load.

Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

#254

Problem is that: 1) People's use of energy is relatively insensitive to price, or they don't know the price, or few people care about the price when it comes time to need it 2) When you need the energy, it's too late to make the equipment/house more efficient, and when you don't need it, people don't think it's important to make it more efficient 3) Mandating that people upgrade their equipment is unpopular, they vot…

My parents live in Dallas and rarely use the heating because of cost; instead they wear scarves and mittens inside. They are running it now, because it is the coldest they've ever seen. When your alternative is to freeze to death, you pay. Finding fault with people because of that is insensitive and lacking in empathy. They know the cost, they also know what the temperature outside is. Resilience is an important prin…

Of all the things the comment you replied to complained about, people's inelastic demand wasn't one of them: it was merely the background for all of the actual things being complained about.

Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

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Holy cow! How in the world do you use that much? My old house in Colorado would use ~350kwh/month. Swap out that electric heater for a heat pump asap!

Big house (3700sqft or so), tall ceilings, four people working/schooling from home and an electric car as the primary family car. In 2019 I literally did not turn the heater on a single time, I don't think the investment in a heat pump would be worth it.

We have colder weather where I live, but I see I used 550 kwh per month (at most). Even if my house is half your size, 70 kwh seems like a lot for a daily baseline. I have a similar situation (kids at home studying, me working at home).

Does the the car that drives up your electricity usage that much?

Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

#257
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Except in places where the power is being stolen.

Example? I'm not sure what you mean by "stolen" but I'm sure there's a ton of mining that is occurring at a statutory or downstream low-rate (as opposed to C&I based on peak or wholesale subject to the real-time market). In those cases, the electric providers should be able to pay them to curtail load but it's frankly a travesty on all accounts.

I think you're overthinking it. It's just regular stealing, something that would be more historically associated with Marijuana grow-ops. Bypassing your meter, tapping off your neighbours meter, street lighthing, mining in your employers basement without them knowing, etc.

Basically using electricity that isn't "yours" without paying for it.

Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

#258

Problem is that: 1) People's use of energy is relatively insensitive to price, or they don't know the price, or few people care about the price when it comes time to need it 2) When you need the energy, it's too late to make the equipment/house more efficient, and when you don't need it, people don't think it's important to make it more efficient 3) Mandating that people upgrade their equipment is unpopular, they vot…

The problem is it's the coldest night in about 30 years. Here in Austin, it's just past midnight, and it's already down to 13°F (-10.5°C). It hasn't been that cold here since December 23, 1989. Also, a lot of Texas homes have electric heat (except in the northern part of the state). Winters are relatively short and mild. Many homes use electric heat pumps as the heating source. They're energy-efficient and easy to in…

And with windchill, it's well below 0°F.

I've lived in Texas all my life and can't remember the last time that happened.

Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

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A don't think a heat pump would help them in this weather.

Modern ones and designed for purpose go to -20C.

I bet absolutely nobody in texas asked "how efficent is the heatpump at -20c" when buying them. Same reason why all the windmills froze: "would like this wind mill model that produces eletricity at -20, or this cheaper one that freezes at 0c?"

Re: Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid

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Its pretty much LED bulbs and fixtures in the US. I think Trump administration reversed the original law but there are a few state laws that are even stricter. The manufacturers have all moved onto LEDs so no going back.

It would have been an executive order the Trump administration reversed, he wouldn’t have had the authority to reverse a congressional passed law.

Looks like it was just the more recent DOE regulations that were reserved. These were for specialty bulbs. But with some of the states still enforcing the changes combined with other countries doing similar things, the manufacturers probably will move on to newer technology.

> In 2014, the Department of Energy issued regulations that would extend the efficiency standards of the 2007 EISA law to some specialty bulbs, effective January 2020.[91] The new standards would apply to Edison, globe, and candelabra bulbs among others. In February 2019, the Department of Energy announced a proposal to withdraw this change. In September 2019 the Trump administration rolled-back these energy efficiency standards for lightbulbs with the Energy Department's publication of regulations in the Federal Register.[92][93] The Energy Department announced the reversal of the 2014 regulation that would have taken effect on January 1, 2020 and implemented the last round of energy-saving light bulb regulations outlined by the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.[94]EISA law to some specialty bulbs, effective January 2020

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_ligh...

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