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What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Convincing water to just evaporate on its own was always going to be a bit tricky. The energy needs to come from somewhere so your best bet is to just get it into contact with enough dry air and hope for the best. Besides if you're trying to restore humidity lost by heating your room then pure energy wise there's not that much difference in evaporating the required amount of water using ambient heat or evaporating th…
In places with hot dry summers, the evaporative approach is vastly more efficient than boiling water.
The evaporative approach will actually manage to do something that's generally impossible as it will actually cool down the air. Obviously this is the superior method to deal with hot dry air.
The use-case described in the article however:
>The east coast’s dry winter air, parched further by the radiators that can barely keep up with the chill, causes great discomfort to me and millions
suggests they're trying to heat the space they're in. At which point you'll need to recover any heat lost by evaporation anyway.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a German I and many others are religiously following what our consumer reports "Stiftung Warentest" recommends (except for high-tech products). Germans have very high confidence in the products and many companies print a good test result ("very good" or even "good" on their packaging). Reasons are that they are extremely thorough, unbiased, financially independent and can be quite tough. They have sophisticated te…
Stiftung Warentest is definitely useful, but like you said have a spotty track-record for tech products. Realising that definitely made me more sceptical of them. It's basically the concept of "Gell-Mann Amnesia" - if I can tell their tests are flawed in a field I'm knowledgable in, are the tests they do in other fields that seem reasonable to me also flawed (but I ignore that)? Although they do come up with the test…
True. I think there are categories where I take their word for gospel, like electric tooth brushes, mixers and other electric household items, food, cosmetics, etc.
But for some products they had/have really weird metrics. E.g. an early smartphone would be punished because the battery was not replaceable, so a shitty feature phone took the crone (a little exaggerated). But still, they are focused on customers.
And a lot of the non-test editorial focuses on updating the consumer about warnings of faulty products, new regulations, test candidate updates, etc.
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#254Technology Connections just recently made a really good video about humidifiers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHeehYYgl28
the TC video's conclusion is that the evaporative humidifiers are best, but TFA's main complaints would not be solved by that. It sounds like the TFA needs an air filter combined with an evaporative cooler. And maybe some expectation management concerning what happens to standing water at room temperature under a fan.
I have an ultrasonic humidifier and I swear by it. The water here is quite soft so I don't have much trouble with the dust Alec complains about.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is that too much bleach though? I do just a few drops in my ~1 gallon humidifier that works continuously in my clone room and it stays clean and even keeps the Serratia bacteria that make the pink stuff in the reservoir at bay. I do use reverse osmosis water to fill it though. Is breathing that much aerosolized chlorine a concern? A calculator I use is here. Tap water is about 2 ppm. https://www.publichealthontario.c…
I hasn’t been an issue, but I am careful to not overdo it. I have overdone it once with a cool mist humidifier, and it was definitely noticeably uncomfortable. I replaced the water quite quickly.
How are you sure it's not a boiling the frog scenario then? You might be "comfortable", but internal damage over long term can be taking place until it gets to a tipping point. I'm just weary of ingesting / inhaling anything foreign over long periods of time regularly.
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are there any of those Japanese ones you can buy in North America? Any brands you're aware of? yeah, i'm curious as well.
Alright since you guys asked I found the closest in spec Sharp model to my favorite domestic Sharp. In America KC-850U: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BF665Y/ref=emc_b_5_t In Japan KC-H50-W: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B077TC5PM8/ref=ppx_yo_dt... The American offering is an extra 150$, but that buys you marketing videos with a fake scientist pouring baby powder through a filter onto a hepa filter. Japan gets n…
Yup I have several of these sharp air filter/humidifiers and I find that they really improve the indoor air quality. It's very subtle, and for the most part you don't even notice a difference when they are running. But when I have accidentally left one turned off for a while I have definitely noticed when I woke up with a horrifically dry throat and nose, or come home to a very stale smelling house.
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#257First world problems.
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you read about the order of events?
You're reading a causal meaning into "after" that clearly was not intended by the author of Wirecutter's response. They are clearly expressing a simple temporal relation and not a causal one. Please be clear that I have no opinion on the truthfulness of the Wirecutter's response. Perhaps they're truly corrupt as all hell. I have no inside knowledge of how they operate. However, it is absolutely clear you're reading s…
"After" is a temporal word. We have may ways to clearly express cause that could have been used. Generally, one uses "after" to imply cause without explicitly saying it.
Instead, Wirecutter has made a factually incorrect statement. That Thing 1 happened, then Thing 2 happened, then Thing 3 happened is not in dispute. Also not in dispute: Thing 3 happened after Thing 2, which happened after Thing 1.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Stiftung Warentest is definitely useful, but like you said have a spotty track-record for tech products. Realising that definitely made me more sceptical of them. It's basically the concept of "Gell-Mann Amnesia" - if I can tell their tests are flawed in a field I'm knowledgable in, are the tests they do in other fields that seem reasonable to me also flawed (but I ignore that)? Although they do come up with the test…
True. I think there are categories where I take their word for gospel, like electric tooth brushes, mixers and other electric household items, food, cosmetics, etc. But for some products they had/have really weird metrics. E.g. an early smartphone would be punished because the battery was not replaceable, so a shitty feature phone took the crone (a little exaggerated). But still, they are focused on customers. And a…
The good thing is, that the composition of the end score is also published. This way you have a standardized comparision of the different features/properties and you can give an other weight to the categories for yourself.