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Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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And his claim was refuted in mere minutes. An extremely disingenuous argument on his behalf. Glenn has done great work in the past for which he should be commended, but these days he's a contrarian in search of hot takes. It's just how the Twitter / Patreon journalist economy operates. He will throw a huge hissy fit about the mainstream media but then happily go on Fox News with Tucker.

he has always been like this. if it wasn't for Snowden choosing him because he liked his politics, nobody would care what Greenwald has to say.

Nah I disagree. He used to truly dive into the story regardless of ideology. It was about the truth and the facts of the case. Specifically, his writing on the Anthrax case is top-tier journalism. He also bravely defended Nazis in court and stood up for their rights, which I deeply respect (and a totally different scenario than the current Parler debacle).

But having said that, it's clear lately he puts politics / optics first and then dives into an issue.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Who Amazon does business with is their own decision. But terminating Parler with such short notice that they had no chance of moving to an alternative without major disruption of their business. Well. That is deliberate destruction. Without knowing anything about US civil law, I would expect Parler to have a strong case.

There's a more in depth discussion of the standard AWS contract here where there is a clause allowing immediate termination.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25733333

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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The question is whether that's legal, or anticompetitive

Anticompetitive? Is parler competing with amazon in any ways, shape or form?

It may be a small point, but both Parler and Amazon make some income from advertising, so at least in this sense, they are competing.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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What's wrong with targeting ads based on subject matter? TV channels and magazines know how this works. If the page is about fashion, sell ad space to clothing companies. If the page is about travel, sell it to hospitality companies and tourism boards. If the page is about politics or finance, sell it to people making catheters and stair lifts. It's much less creepy than trying to spy on everybody who reads the page,…

It doesnt work as well as targeted ads. Why would hundreds of billions in ad spend willingly choose a lesser option?

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Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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I have seen so many violent threats and incitements on Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, and Instagram over the last 5 years that Parler could possibly make the case that they've been singled out, but I doubt it. They're just too unsympathetic of a plaintiff, imho. That said, antitrust battles against Big Tech will dominate the next four years of economic policy, and rightfully so. GAFA is too big, too powerful, too manip…

What reason is there to think the incoming Biden/Harris regime will look to break up these big tech companies?

Idk, we talk again once it’s done

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The guy in the fur hat was arrested and had a Parler. This isn't hard. The majority of people arrested had Parler accounts -- it's everywhere.

How many protesters arrested in the 2020 Summer protests had a twitter account?

There's a big difference between protesting and domestic terrorism.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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And here we see the problem with centralized social media. Did anyone think that handing control over to megacorps would end differently? Today it’s Parler, tomorrow it’s whatever political ideology Big Tech finds inconvenient.

"Handing control over." Seriously, do you have a realistic alternative? If we are going to have social media, at scale, in a capitalist society, it's hard to see how there's much of an alternative to for-profit companies. Do you want the government to run Twitter?

Why not decentralized/federated services run by by various communities all across the world?

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This Glen Greebwald who "quit" in protest to his false Hunter Biden witch hunt? The guy lost all credibility pushing that fake bullshit story so far he lost his job at his own news org. https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-quits-the-inte...

Hunter Biden is under investigation. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/09/poli... Update: replaced link with a more relevant one

Yes, Hunter Biden is under investigation. But the investigation Glenn wrote about was separate, and a transparent fraud.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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> The guy in the fur hat was arrested and had a Parler. I can't find evidence of this. Could you share your evidence? Greenwald did significant research here and said he found no active users from those arrested: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293

Glenn is either terrible at research or lying. https://twitter.com/azforeman/status/1348648808390008832?s=2... Google “baked alaska parler”. It’s literally on the first page of results.

Thanks for the image. Do you know if the account was active or unused? I guess that's why Glenn said "were active users" and not "were users".
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