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GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by edoceo »

viraptor wrote: post #135
utborin wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I promise you people have gotten this right. I have a 198? Mac Plus on my desk that I can boot up and do this on and it will work properly. I’m having trouble even imagining the insane event-processing architecture that results in keystrokes being processed out of order. Edit: Alright, alright, forget the old computer. My new ones get it right too. All of which is a red herring, because the point is this behavior is…

That Mac cannot multithread the UI interactions. It doesn't have to be a keystroke processing issue. It can be "hey window parent, I've got your result in my properties, pick it up" which doesn't get processed before the next event changes the related property. It's almost a classic TOCTOU issue.

Time of check, Time of Use

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-of-check_to_time-of-use

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by whatever1 »

ncmncm wrote: post #189
whatever1 wrote: post #112

Linux was always a Terminal-first OS. The UI efforts never came close to the depth that MacOS and Windows have. Take for example the scaling issue. It has been now almost half a decade with 4k Displays, and Linux still does not know how to deal with it other than 100% or 200%. Currently Linux is unusable for anyone with a modern display. I appreciate the work that all the contributors put -for free- in projects like…

I use 4k displays. Everything involving font, chrome, and icon sizes is perfect. Don't know what you are having trouble with.

Glad it works for you. It does not for most of us. Including multi-monitor setups or various glitches in rendering. Google Kubuntu Fractional scaling to have a glimpse.

A few examples:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1253744/inconsistent-resolut...

https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=164736

https://pointieststick.com/category/high-dpi/

Probably there are workarounds, kernel patches, magic scripts that might solve the above, but honestly I don't have time to spend on these. It should just work. I use an OS to get work done, not to fix the OS.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by [deleted] »

ATsch wrote: post #218
alkonaut wrote: post #163

Note that showing the thumbnails would likely be simple enough. The whole desktop system needs a system for generating and maintaining those thumbnails too. Those systems are always complex and messy (remember thumbs.db?) A dialog that opens every file in the directory to read the image and show it, won’t be very popular. So implementing this feature isn’t a change to a dialog but an implementation of something akin…

Nautilus does already have such a cache though. But there is little to no code sharing between nautilus and the gtk file picker, which I think is the actual problem here.

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Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by Spivak »

nl wrote: post #95
Spivak wrote: post #75

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Isn’t that “better” in some sense? You don’t have to actually categorize anything in order to find it later. Just type what you want and let tracker pull it up for you. If I could just “accio my black jeans” I wouldn’t bother organizing my closet.

The assumes you know the name of the random image you downloaded to insert into the document. mjx3AmQXM5OrkxV7.jpg isn't super easy to remember (as a random real example chosen from my downloads directory)

I mean nothing excuses not having thumbnail previews. That’s just stilly. I just mean the default typing action to be search rather than typing the name of the file.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by baybal2 »

skrap wrote: post #231
kaszanka wrote: post #105

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Recursive search instead of type-ahead search within one directory in the file picker is criminally terrible. I don't think there is any implementation of a file picker that behaves like this (other than Gtk's).

Is this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/2366 ? It really bothers me as well.

> Free software development is not a democracy, and does not get driven by polls. Features and bugs are introduced by those who show up, within a community that works towards a shared goal.

And it is exactly to let themselves yell that, they work hard to alienate few normal devs left in the project.

I understood now that Gnome 3.0 was from the start Redhat's fully intentional attempt to appropriate the project, and is not dissimilar to Microsoft's embrace, extend, extinguish.

1. Get command of some more abandoned parts of the project.

2. Push a series of guaranteedly unpopular sharp direction changes which will lead to loss of devs.

3. As devs leave, you get more reinforcement to your casus belli, saying that "nobody maintains this pile of garbage, so now I am taking it over too"

4. Rinse, and repeat.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by gattr »

whatever1 wrote: post #112

Linux was always a Terminal-first OS. The UI efforts never came close to the depth that MacOS and Windows have. Take for example the scaling issue. It has been now almost half a decade with 4k Displays, and Linux still does not know how to deal with it other than 100% or 200%. Currently Linux is unusable for anyone with a modern display. I appreciate the work that all the contributors put -for free- in projects like…

Non-integer scaling has been working fine for me for a few years now. I use Fedora + KDE, 175% on my 24" 4K monitor and 225% on 4K 15.6" laptop.

I just had to manually increase the mouse cursor size, and in Firefox change layout.css.devPixelsPerPx to the scaling factor.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by tsar9x »

viseztrance wrote: post #207
whatever1 wrote: post #112

Linux was always a Terminal-first OS. The UI efforts never came close to the depth that MacOS and Windows have. Take for example the scaling issue. It has been now almost half a decade with 4k Displays, and Linux still does not know how to deal with it other than 100% or 200%. Currently Linux is unusable for anyone with a modern display. I appreciate the work that all the contributors put -for free- in projects like…

Funny thing. The company I worked for, bought me a 1440p ultrawide screen to use on my mac at (the same I used home on my linux workstation). It displayed no scaling options whatsoever - NONE. Other displays (4k 16:9) shown it but not that. And unlike linux, or windows you can't even set the font size globally. Suffice to say, that this isn't a solved problem everywhere else.

On macOS you need to "Option-Click" on Scaled radio button to see full list of resolutions.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by kiwidrew »

hedora wrote: post #29

This has somehow gotten worse in recent years. When saving, it used to be you could use the mouse to navigate to a directory, then type the desired filename, and press enter. Now, typing the filename initiates a contextual search within the current directory. Clicking in the filename textbox and starting to type doesn’t work either. You have to highlight the base (not the extension or “.”) of the filename. At that po…

Yes, this exact issue frustrates me to no end.

Another related issue: when saving something from Firefox, the file picker opens into _a random directory_ each time. Like maybe 50% of the time, it will be the most-recently-used directory, but the rest of the time it is a random directory that I had saved something to at some point in the distant past.

It boggles the mind how these bugs can persist for years upon years, but my occasional forays into the GNOME bugtracker indicate that the developers just don't seem to care one bit about this stuff. They often seem downright hostile and defensive and dismissive of the bug reports, either closing them as WONTFIX or ignoring them until they rot.

Re: GNOME has no thumbnails in the file picker and my toilets are blocked

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Post by philsnow »

kaszanka wrote: post #240
skrap wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/2366 ? It really bothers me as well.

Yes. As you can see, this is by design.

This is in my experience emblematic of GNOME in general. I've shaken the dust off my sandals and don't use anything gnome-y if I can avoid it.

Here's the thing that convinced me, a while back: https://wiki.gnome.org/Attic/GnomeScreensaver/FrequentlyAske...

I'm sure there's people here who are long-time contributors and/or supporters. Just ignore me, I'm not your target audience. ... I'm really not sure who your target audience is, though.

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