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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Or, fuck them for choosing to work for a company that at best is a racist cesspool and at worst is abetting an attempt to steal an election. Every single thing that has happened with Parler was foreseeable and forseen on the day it was announced. It was never about free speech, and everyone knew that.

Are you suggesting that their long game was always to create an app where a subset of users could organize a riot at the capitol in the event Trump lost the election?

You may have less of a grasp on reality than the people who rioted. That or you don't really believe what you said and maybe it's best if each of us do our part to turn the heat down a little bit.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Regardless of my/your thoughts on Parler, godspeed to those engineers. Assuming a majority of Parler infra is hosted on AWS, and it wasn't built to be multi-cloud, moving hosting providers in ~36 hours seems like a herculean task.

They knew what they signed up for. Maybe they didn't know that a coup would end up planned on their app in the public, but it was nakedly obvious to everyone that Parler was going to go the route of Gab or Voat. Those who didn't jump ship a long time ago decided that that wasn't a problem for them.

Their bigger issue is going to be the fact that their resumes will be radioactive going forward. Reputation harm is actually a real thing; if Uber engineers struggled to get new jobs after all those bombshells years ago, these people's careers are probably de-facto over.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#254

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

The obvious line is incitement of violence. Most countries have codified this in law but the US has not I think?

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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post #156

Regardless of my/your thoughts on Parler, godspeed to those engineers. Assuming a majority of Parler infra is hosted on AWS, and it wasn't built to be multi-cloud, moving hosting providers in ~36 hours seems like a herculean task.

Aren't they all 10X programmers now that Trump gutted the various visa programs? Come on you lot! We stopped the immigrants so you should all have you CS PhDs now, right?

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#257

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

> Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels more murky than that.

No, it doesnt. Actual terrorist group sites should be banned and kicked of whatever platforms they're operating on. No one, or no company, should be required to provide service to them.

I really struggle to see the issue here. If you allow calls for elected officials, or anyone, to be publically murdered, then it's free game for companys to refuse your service. It's pretty fucking simple imho.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#259

Just build your own website bro Just build your own host bro Just build your own financial banking system bro Just build your own water and power infrastructure bro

crypto-anarchy is coming to solve the first 3 for sure. The last one is a little bit more difficult but not impossible.
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