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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by that_guy_iain »

rob74 wrote: post #123
jkw wrote: post #49

I think there's a difference between: (a) I WILL WAIT because I don't trust it yet, and (b) I WILL WAIT because I want to let the more at-risk people to have access it to first That seems to be lost in the poll

Or (c) I will tell everyone that I'm waiting so that more at-risk people can have access it to first, but secretly I'll be happy others are field-testing it for me...

Or (d) I will wait to see if Corona mutates so much over the next year that the vaccine is a yearly process.

Edit: I feel like some people didn’t notice the mink culling in Denmark which was caused by fears that version of the virus would make the vaccines useless.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by Dayshine »

nicoburns wrote: post #178
kortilla wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reasons I’ve heard: - The rushed nature of the vaccines. “Fastest approved vaccine” is not re-assuring if you don’t understand what trade was made for that accelerated timeline. - “I’ll just stay isolated until it dies off” - “I don’t trust western medicine” - “I don’t trust the FDA or big pharma” - “I don’t care if I get covid . People at risk can take the vaccine” Don’t forget how many people don’t even take the fl…

> Don’t forget how many people don’t even take the flu shot. That's a funny comparison from a UK perspective where the flu shot isn't even offered to the general population (only the elderly, vulnerable or those whose work in healthcare or similar). I'd say there is much more reason to take the COVID vaccine than the flu shot.

What are you talking about?

Most companies offer the flu jab to their employees for free, and otherwise it's like a tenner to save yourself the risk of 2/3 days of feeling horrible.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by maxerickson »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #119
bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

A series of questions/answers I've had with doctors and nurses and quite a few intelligent and educated people. (PhD's, MD's and RN's included) Q: Does all medicine go through a rigorous efficacy testing that is certified by the FDA? A: Yes. Q: Do vaccines? A: No. Q: Why? A: It would be unethical. This is surprising to people who don't know how vaccines are made. edit: removed hyperbole

This is some real forest for the trees bullshit here.

It likely would have been good to do challenge trials with the vaccine groups (to speed up the testing). It would of course not be nice to do it with the placebo group.

But you are plucking a single evidentiary standard out of some dark place and then asserting that it is the only useful one. Of course it is not, and Phase 3 vaccine trials are well designed to provide clear evidence of effectiveness. Go look up the Pfizer result going around on the memes if you don't believe that.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by h3cate »

postalrat wrote: post #231
Omnus wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"So much faith"? People are just following the science. Are you really arguing that because one bad situation has occurred involving pharmaceutical companies, we should assume every new drug or treatment is bogus or based on evil motives?

Too many people are claiming they are following the science but instead are playing politics.

I agree with you on this one. If you try and have a rational discussion about the pros and cons of this vaccine it seems like a lot of the people for say: "we believe in the science" or something along those lines but then will give zero real insight into said science

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by blueline »

tux1968 wrote: post #78
bognition wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would getting the vaccine increase your risk at all?

The vaccine is not field tested, so there is a risk in the unknown. The Canadian government at least is warning that some people may have an allergic reaction and are creating a tracking database to find out who is most at risk to such. Also, people are not perfect, so the entire supply chain poses some risk in delivering a bad batch of vaccine. In short, you should not be injecting things into your system unless you…

> The vaccine is not field tested

what exactly would you call phase 3 trials for the various vaccines that were done on thousands/tens of thousands of people?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by h3cate »

Trasmatta wrote: post #93
h3cate wrote: post #88

I'm genuinely curious as to why people have so much faith in big pharma after the whole benzo crisis that's hit America. Weren't these same companies paying doctors to get people hooked on Xanax?

False equivalence

Sorry, please can you explain for a dumb person?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by another-dave »

throwaway201103 wrote: post #198
jkw wrote: post #49

I think there's a difference between: (a) I WILL WAIT because I don't trust it yet, and (b) I WILL WAIT because I want to let the more at-risk people to have access it to first That seems to be lost in the poll

Also you might split up the "No" answer as "No, because I've already had COVID and recovered" vs. "No, I'm an anti-vaxxer" (or something).

Everything I've read has suggested that people who've had COVID should still get the vaccine anyway, as it could act as a booster. And that, whether through natural immunity or a vaccine it looks likely that we'll need to get it 'topped up' after awhile.

Has there been medical advice anywhere that people who've had COVID don't need to get vaccinated?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by polote »

bognition wrote: post #12

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

Young and healthy, don't really care to get covid as risk is very low. But the vaccine is new we never know what we could discover about its effect in 10 years
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