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Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Excellent. Looks like they've removed the tests for RIAA member videos as the only change, which I assume helped get this restored: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commit/1fb034d029c8b7...

> Looks like they've removed the tests for RIAA member videos as the only change

And even that was more likely to allow certain somewhat too loud organizations to save face, not out of legal necessity.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much of that metadata is not normally downloaded alongside the video?

Plenty of it? I regularly download the metadata and subtitles of entire channels or playlists so that I can search for specific words or phrases in thousands of hours of video. I know of no other way to accomplish this.

Subtitles are a perfect example of data that any normal browser downloads if you click CC, and can even be ^F'd if you click ‘Show Transcript’ on YouTube, but just happen to be orders of magnitude more useful if you control where they download to. I think you’re proving globular-toast’s point.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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post #184

It seems like EFF fought for youtube-dl and GitHub used their letter as legal firepower to bring the repo back online. If GitHub were fighting for the developer they would have funded the attorney, right? Though from their blog post it does look like they are taking steps to fund defense in the future as well as other steps to improve the situation. Reading EFFs claim is pretty interesting, they state that saving a c…

Open question to HackerNews: are there big tech firms that give lobbying money to free software lobbyists? Feel free to highlight them here. I'd rather cut this problem off at the head than sit around and establish legal defense funds if possible. I'm glad GitHub and Microsoft could help contribute to this victory though.

> I'd rather cut this problem off at the head

I don't understand what you mean by this! I know it's an expression or a way of saying something, but I don't understand what you mean

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much of that metadata is not normally downloaded alongside the video?

Plenty of it? I regularly download the metadata and subtitles of entire channels or playlists so that I can search for specific words or phrases in thousands of hours of video. I know of no other way to accomplish this.

Thank you so much for writing this comment!

I've been in several situations where this would have been incredibly handy, but never realized it was possible.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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post #231
post #184

It seems like EFF fought for youtube-dl and GitHub used their letter as legal firepower to bring the repo back online. If GitHub were fighting for the developer they would have funded the attorney, right? Though from their blog post it does look like they are taking steps to fund defense in the future as well as other steps to improve the situation. Reading EFFs claim is pretty interesting, they state that saving a c…

Open question to HackerNews: are there big tech firms that give lobbying money to free software lobbyists? Feel free to highlight them here. I'd rather cut this problem off at the head than sit around and establish legal defense funds if possible. I'm glad GitHub and Microsoft could help contribute to this victory though.

Pretty sure Google is ensuring employees to give money to EFF.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of it? I regularly download the metadata and subtitles of entire channels or playlists so that I can search for specific words or phrases in thousands of hours of video. I know of no other way to accomplish this.

Subtitles are a perfect example of data that any normal browser downloads if you click CC, and can even be ^F'd if you click ‘Show Transcript’ on YouTube, but just happen to be orders of magnitude more useful if you control where they download to. I think you’re proving globular-toast’s point.

Subtitles are not video, so no. And I'd like to see you visit a thousand video pages with an RIAA approved browser and ^F on each of them. Nice joke!

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Say what you will about Github and Microsoft, this was a classy move. A million dollars is a million dollars. "Putting your money where your mouth is". "Nonetheless, developers who want to push back against unwarranted takedowns may face the risk of taking on personal liability and legal defense costs. To help them, GitHub will establish and donate $1M to a developer defense fund to help protect open source developer…

> A million dollars is a million dollars.

Not if you are a company worth $1.6 trillion dollars.

But that $1 million dollars probably bought them a lot more in free press.

To put it into perspective, it would be like someone worth $1.6 million giving a homeless person $1, filming it, putting it on youtube and profiting off of it.

> Thanks Microsoft/Github.

Is this real?

Edit: Of course the downvotes. Not sure if employees of microsoft or people working in microsoft shops or the quality of people HN has attracted as declined.

For people saying nonsense like "A million dollars is a million dollars even if the company is worth 100 trillion dollars."...

Do you think forcing someone who makes $100 million to pay $1 million in taxes is the same as forcing someone who makes $2 million to pay $1 million in taxes? $1 million is still $1 million right? I guess the concept of proportionality is foreign to many here?

The "love" for microsoft recently is interesting. Facebook should look into buying that kind of love.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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I take GH/Microsoft won't implement any punitive counter-measures for frivolous 1201 claims? Their new claim processing appears to be fairly resource-heavy. It'd be only fair to recover some of the costs they will end up sinking into it.

Sincere question: What kind of punitive counter-measures could they implement here?

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever you watch a video you are downloading it. youtube-dl merely gives you control over where that stream goes, whether it's to a hard disk or to a media player like the regular Youtube.

The point is that youtube-dl does more than just download videos. It can also be used for downloading metadata. I use -J to download metadata formatted as JSON.

Is that metadata protected by some sort of mechanism? Or is it just not queried by default using one's browser? I.e., is youtube-dl calling a public, unsecured API, or is it circumventing some sort of copy protection?

Because if it's just querying for metadata that anyone can already query for...your point seems immaterial as to the legality of the tool?

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