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iPhone 12 Pro so costly in India, you can fly to Dubai to buy it and save money

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Post by sombremesa »

triceratops wrote: post #201
throwawy42434 wrote: post #196

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Public schools have been abandoned by everyone but the very poorest - the facilities are terrible even by 3rd world standards, and worse, the public schools push the eduction in the native languages, which is (very sadly) next to worthless economically in India. The above disempowerment of India's natives, their culture and languages, is the direct result of the Indian state continuing colonial policies of very unfai…

> worse, the public schools push the eduction in the native languages, which is (very sadly) next to worthless economically in India. I hear this a lot but does it have to be so? AFAIK China, Japan, and South Korea also educate students in their native languages and that hasn't hindered their development.

It isn't a straightforward parallel because those countries have universal (or near universal) language homogeneity. Even with the exception of China, there isn't nearly as much variation as there is in India (e.g. here are some languages from an Indian banknote: https://puu.sh/GGwOj/3537211eb7.png).

So, the closest thing India has to a universal language is English. If you don't learn that, you won't be able to communicate with a significant population, even discounting international relations.

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Post by naruvimama »

wobbly_bush wrote: post #160
vshade wrote: post #149

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India is country with lots of poor people, so sometimes that money is not enough to have decent services for upper middle class citizens not feel like paying a lot for poor services. It is one of the problems of my home country, corruption is problem as well, but sometimes you're just paying lots of money because lots of people are paying nothing or very little.

It's a myth that the lack of government services are solely due to lack of funding or budget deficit. One of the original complaints in the thread was about government-provided healthcare and education. Government schools & hospitals exist, but they aren't exactly known for their quality apart from a few niche ones like IITs, IIMs, AIIMs. So is the issue that lack of funding is preventing these public services from b…

Previous generations of populist governments could be blamed for their short term thinking and political appointments to the dismal state of the Education system.

It is a sector that really needs an upgrade and much of it requires very little money but the attitude of teachers and curriculum.

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Post by naruvimama »

908B64B197 wrote: post #209
hannofcart wrote: post #126

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I doubt that the taxes from import of electronics is significant enough for it to be a 'great deal' for the Indian Government. I think their intended purpose is to promote/protect local manufacturing.

I get the protectionist aspect, but are they re-investing the money from this tax to make manufacturing desirable in the country? We're talking logistics improvement, stable electric grid, infrastructure and training programs to get an educated workforce. Or is it just contributing to some bureaucrat's pension fund? In the same vein, I 100% agree with fuel taxes and green taxes... if the government can demonstrate 10…

What they do with the money is up to the citizens, it is they who pay the taxes and not Apple.

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Post by naruvimama »

ampdepolymerase wrote: post #36
robertlagrant wrote: post #20

> It is no secret that the taxes and duties that are applied to imported phones are highest in India. The taxes are so high that for an important iPhone that you will end up paying an average tax of Rs 24,000 for something like an iPhone 12 or iPhone 12 Mini. > However, despite the sky-rocketing prices, iPhone still sells best in India and the buyers give whatever price Apple asks them to pay. So for a business, that…

More like the government is incompetent for failing to use policy to move manufacturing to India and instead raising prices for the average consumer.

iPhone in India is not for an average consumer, it is just a show off phone

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Post by naruvimama »

hangonhn wrote: post #142
abalaji wrote: post #137

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Yep! That's why you might hear of Lakhs or Crores in Indian forex contexts. 1 Lakh: 10,00,000 1 Crore: 10,00,00,000

Is there a reason for that other than just tradition/history? Sometimes when things differ from our norms, there may be a reason or an advantage that we are unaware of. Just curious. Thanks in advance!

One advantage is that while talking about money, payslip and wealth it would fall neatly within this range especially in Indian rupees.

For instance for an average developer the pay scale would be in lakhs and mortgage in crores.

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Post by naruvimama »

teatree wrote: post #208
teachrdan wrote: post #195

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> its the poor who's children suffer the most Honest question: How do the poor (and their children) "suffer the most" from taxes on GPUs and iPhones?

Govt and low cost schools have outdated or sometimes no computers at all. Internet is the best means of learning today, they are deprived of it. Heck even top universities don't have good infrastructure in India. Our maid's daughter wants to take up CS after high school, she saw us working on laptops from a young age I guess, but her mother cannot afford to pay for college fees + a laptop + broadband. India's silicon…

In Tamilnadu the government schools provide free laptops to students.

India is ripe for electronics manufacturing and the government policy is inline with their goals.

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

srg0 wrote: post #181
kspacewalk2 wrote: post #118

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I prefer Youessians.

I suppose that any suffix is not culturally neutral. Youessish. Like in British, English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish. Youessan. Like in Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban. Youessese. Asian American. Youessian. Like Italian, Hungarian, Russian, Indian.

Youessi - like Iraqi, Yemeni

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Post by robertlagrant »

fsckboy wrote: post #245
mijamo wrote: post #141

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I don't think you know many people from Latin America. A lot of them will absolutely not like American to refer to the USA only. Especially as the USA imperialism has done so much damage in many places there. It is not as strong as say the Macedonian debate but it is very real.

You and the people of Latin America are making a language category error though. The people of Latin America speak Spanish (and perhaps Portugese), and the Spanish word "America" means what it does in Spanish. But in English, the word "America" refers to the USA. It doesn't make sense to complain about words in other languages that you don't speak. You acknowledge what America means when you use the English word "Ame…

> a word in their language that sounds like "football" to refer to soccer

Isn't that word, "football"?

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