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Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps
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#252Anyone complaining about this has never experienced the frustration of rural living when it comes to internet. This is absolutely amazing, and it will just get better. Even a reliable 10mbps would be a godsend in many places.
This also makes remote work more viable in non-traditional locations.
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#253Anyone complaining about this has never experienced the frustration of rural living when it comes to internet. This is absolutely amazing, and it will just get better. Even a reliable 10mbps would be a godsend in many places.
Reliable 10mbps is a stable full hd stream and 5ish mbps to spare. Easily one stable video call or two at lower quality. It'll be annoying if you want to download the latest AAA shooter coming in at dozens and dozens of gigabytes, sure. But you can do a lot at 10mbps as 1-2 people needing the uplink. That's really nice.
Totally agree.
Also - my frustrations over the last few days compel me to point out that the latest AAA shooter is in fact 227 GB, plus >100GB of updates.
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#254Anyone complaining about this has never experienced the frustration of rural living when it comes to internet. This is absolutely amazing, and it will just get better. Even a reliable 10mbps would be a godsend in many places.
I am with one of the world’s biggest telcos, Telstra, on a fully owned and operated fibre-to-the-premises network. I live in a decade old estate half an hour from the centres of the third and sixth largest cities in the country. The maximum upload speed currently on sale on that network is 1 Mbps. And it’s a monopoly. Inequality in Internet access aside, that maximum is below the average fixed upload speed of 170 out…
> I am with one of the world’s biggest telcos, Telstra...
You have my condolences :(
That's so bizarre to have that kind of low speed on fibre, though. I'm half an hour by car / bus from the 4th biggest city, and I'm reliably getting 10Mbps upload over the copper lines. (I was getting the full 20Mbps of my plan, until NBN recently botched the repair of a temporary line fault - their repair guy even said it was the legal required minimum speed and he wasn't going to try any harder than that.)
Is iiNet not available where you are? Though since it's all NBN now, the reseller telco shouldn't make any difference.
That 6th biggest city is awesome though - if I didn't live here, I'd move there. 3rd biggest is a nice place too.
Re: Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps
#255What hardware is required to use the Starlink network? Would that be expensive?
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
>A lot of what you're saying isn't actually true here. You're talking latency not bandwidth. There is only so much spectrum to go around. My understanding is that there is only a certain amount of bandwidth to go around and there are diminishing returns on adding people beyond a set capacity. I am not arguing that fiber is faster, I'm arguing that fiber has is cheaper at the bandwidth/cost in more dense areas. I don'…
I worked for an ILEC providing cable/dsl/fiber service and just the rough napkin math around SpaceX's launch costs makes it look significantly cheaper. Besides the whole digging and laying cable costs, last mile work is expensive. You have to employ huge crews. Construction crews constantly dig up & cut your infrastructure "by accident" and the cost of recovering the fines from them is as much as the fines pay out. H…
The SpaceX approach also completely bypasses a ton of the nonsense local bureaucracy, stonewalling by existing ISPs, etc that a company would have to deal with to put in cables, towers, etc in the first place, saving both time and money.
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#257What hardware is required to use the Starlink network? Would that be expensive?
I've read somewhere else that its in the territory of $250. But that was reporting from a while ago, and things might be different now.
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#258The latency here is the main takeaway for me. It's phenomenal for a space based system. I spent some time at my parents cabin during the quarantine and the only option there is satellite internet. SSH with a ping of multiple seconds is rather frustrating. That and all the systems which have bad bandwidth because that much latency makes them think they've lost connection. As my parents are both techies, they are despe…
Once they have inter-satellite links I'd expect long-haul latency over those links to beat cable latency for equivalent hauls.
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#259I recall when Iridium was going up, there was discussion about the complexity of the software that managed the pattern of transmitting packets among the satellites. The description indicated it was a complex software problem and they were struggling to get it right. (I went looking for articles from the time period, but couldn't track one down, however, came across MIT/Motorola FCC application for what would become Iridium.[1])
It's likely(?) that the orders of magnitude more Starlink satellites, their LEO speed, and other factors that impact optimization (amount of data to transmit, type of data, current load on intervening sats, positional changes during transmission, handoffs, etc.) can make this pretty hard. Or... It could be a learning system via neural net, etc.
The notion that the system could get faster and more efficient over time, simply by operating and without the usual trudge of scheduled software releases and upgrades, is an intriguing possibility. Tho somehow, that's not a novel notion...
[1] https://web.mit.edu/deweck/www/research_files/comsats_2004_0...
Re: Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps
#260Anyone complaining about this has never experienced the frustration of rural living when it comes to internet. This is absolutely amazing, and it will just get better. Even a reliable 10mbps would be a godsend in many places.
Bandwidth is great and all, but satellite latency is a killer. Been there, done that.