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Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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I still cannot believe that Twitter bought Vine, couldn't figure out what to do with it, shut it down, then had to bring it back as a read-only archive because there was so much popular outcry. At the time, the story was that all these other platforms like Instagram and Snapchat were adopting short videos, so Vine could not compete anymore. But obviously it was possible to compete, since an entirely new service --Tik…

> Under this theory, there's nothing Twitter could have done with Vine to make it beat Tik Tok, since a crucial feature of Tik Tok is simply that it's new.

Periodically launch a new instance of the site, on a different URL, with a different colour scheme and an independent userbase?

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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That comment was downvoted because it was spinning unfounded and untrue speculation as facts. Here’s one example > Advertisers that are small to medium size businesses don't get a return from spending their money there, so they have left too. No, this is not true. Not only has Facebook done well in Q2, performance was unaffected by the boycott of large advertisers because of revenue from small businesses.

Ok I also agree with that, but what I mean is that in my opinion, nobody is an expert in everything, right? ... and if someone is wrong about something, they deserve to know the reasons and not just reject their opinion and leave ... then everybody ask why social networks become toxic ... here's the reason

> nobody is an expert in everything, right

True. But then they should speak with humility and uncertainty, not proclaim their wrong ideas with confidence.

> if someone is wrong about something, they deserve to know the reasons

No, it's not our job to educate people. Least of all, people who are ignorant but purport to be knowledgeable. These are the most resistant to any kind of learning.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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> Reels' video distribution algorithm will resemble TikTok's: users will see the most popular videos at the moment, rather than a selection tailored to their individual profile. That's not how TikTok works, the feed is really good at tailoring to the stuff you actually like to watch. It's a big part of why it's so popular. > Reels differs from TikTok thanks to Instagram's augmented reality effects, which let users ov…

I dislike Reel already. I follow wood working, RC cars, and metal fab/3D printing/CNC. Now when I browse it's nothing but women jumping around and showing off their clothes... WTH!? So I start saying, not interested to all of that, still spams me with it.

Probably because that's what the majority of the content on Instagram is. It's likely that content you enjoy hasnt been created yet.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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I have a hunch that TikTok fakes the amount of likes that users post. I’ve heard people say their first post goes viral. It’s an interesting strategy. Young person posts a TikTok, “get famous”, keeps posting.

It could also be that they give more prominence to people's first or second posts to get them off the ground. That effect doesn't have to be caused by artificial like inflation.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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I dislike Reel already. I follow wood working, RC cars, and metal fab/3D printing/CNC. Now when I browse it's nothing but women jumping around and showing off their clothes... WTH!? So I start saying, not interested to all of that, still spams me with it.

Probably because that's what the majority of the content on Instagram is. It's likely that content you enjoy hasnt been created yet.

That's not true, I use Instagram for checking out CNC/3d printing/robotics projects.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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"they just tack on the feature to one of their existing social products" After the rise of Snapchat Facebook tacked on stories to FB, IG, and WA.

Meanwhile snapchat pushed for weird tv shows and sponsored and featured stories, pushing friend stories to the tiny row on top. It's like they do it on purpose to alienate users in exchange for short time increase in "engagement".

Such an odd decision... they had an app for private communication (the value prop was "you can be yourself when your parents and boss aren't in the audience") and tacked on the supermarket tabloids and celebrity news.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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As an American who looks at WeChat and sees a massive, unintuitive jumbled mess, you've explained in this comment how that could possibly be so popular in China! I feel foolish for not having realized that the UX must make perfect sense to everyone who has used WeChat since the days of it being a simple communication app. By that logic, I'm not sure we could say quite yet that Instagram's bundling is a mistake.

TikTok however is the opposite of WeChat where the interface is dead simple and intuitive. What is Reels immitating here?

Facebook is in the slow process of finally dying. Their ownership of Instagram is sustaining them for the time being, but they are now desperate to steal some market share away from Reddit, TikTok, and WeChat. Facebook is far more desperate than they're letting on publicly. They have already been on the decline for multiple years; the competition is now finally speeding that process up dramatically.

When was the last time you truly cared about anything Facebook-related? A few Twitch streamers switching to their platform? The only reason anyone is streaming on Facebook right now is because they were offered multi-million contracts, or because Facebook is currently paying out "autoplay while scrolling through feeds" as view counts (ie. advertising payouts based on PPV instead of PPC/PPA); when that stops, those streamers will lose everything. Facebook has inflated its viewership numbers by cheating via a "loss leader" tactic, but with nothing else recuperating the losses, which only leads to financial collapse.

tldr; Facebook is finally coming to an end. Their executives know this better than anyone, so they're scrambling to pick up as many scraps as they can in order to delay the inevitable.

Re: Facebook launches its TikTok rival, Instagram Reels

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That’s what they said about Snapchat

What is the status of snapchat? Does it still exist? Does anyone use it? How do they split time between TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, and the other half-dozen platforms?

As someone roughly in the target age and location audience for all of the things you mentioned, here's my take:

- TikTok is somewhat mindless entertainment. Keep scrolling, watch funny or informative videos, and the algorithm will tailor more content to your tastes. It's fun and an absolute time-suck, but not any kind of critical communication. I don't personally know anyone who makes TikTok content, but most people I know watch it at least occasionally.

- Instagram is used for sharing a more public view of your life. While most people I know have private accounts, they usually follow and are followed by between a few hundred and a thousand or so other accounts (think classmates and friends of friends). Instagram is where you post photos of yourself in the best possible light, not just silly and random things. People use Stories to share news and post sillier and less permanent content. Not everyone just scrolls endlessly on Instagram; I only follow people I know in real life but many people follow celebrities and meme accounts as well.

- Snapchat is more like a communication platform than a social media platform. People send disappearing photos (usually quick selfies or photos of what they're doing at the moment) to their friends. If you exchange a photo or video with someone for any number of consecutive days, you'll start a streak with that person, which further incentivizes you to continue sending photos to them. Snapchat also has stories, but these are usually intended to be even less permanent. Candid selfies with friends or videos of people doing silly things are the main use, at least within my extended group of friends. It's gotten no less popular recently.

- YouTube continues to be popular. Hopefully this should be self-explanatory. Gaming content is popular.

- Facebook is basically unused by anyone my age other than for specific groups that haven't migrated elsewhere.

- GroupMe is popular for college class group chats and whatnot, but not as a place to hang out and talk about other stuff.

- Twitter is still occasionally used for content consumption, but not as much as Instagram.

- FaceTime, Snapchat's video-calling functionality, and Houseparty (sometimes) are the usual ways to communicate via video chat between friends.

- Discord is expanding outside of gaming circles for text and voice chat.

- Reddit is mildly popular for meme content.

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