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Hong Kong: books by pro-democracy activists disappear from library shelves

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Citations very much needed for the absurd _millions_ of people in concentration camps being butchered alive for organs? I've done a lot of research into this topic and sans one far-right kook who extrapolated millions out of interviewing eight people, nobody suggests anything more than thousands of people in "re-education camps". Nothing about organ harvesting in said camps. I'd urge you to investigate more yourself-…

If you did more than 5 minutes of Googling, you would have all the evidence you need. I dislike Chinese Shills, but I'll provide some links here. There were millions of falun gong practitioners (focus on the "were" there). China started an organ program. You can't just take organs after a person dies. Only brain-dead people are viable candidates. China can get an organ in a week or so (their record is 4 hours). The r…

Fortunately I've done more than five minutes of research on this topic which is why I can see through the propaganda. Your organ claims have been debunked multiple times before (here is one from the WaPo that you will like: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/in-the-fac...) but here are two articles (https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-... https://thegrayzone.com/2019/09/30/reports-china-organ-harve...) debunking your others (and come from the West with links to all salient points they make!):

Relevant quotes from the WaPo:

> And lawyers who have defended Falun Gong practitioners also reject allegations that those prisoners’ organs are being harvested.

> “I have never heard of organs being taken from live prisoners,” said Liang Xiaojun, who said he had defended 300 to 400 Falun Gong practitioners in civil cases and knew of only three or four deaths in prison.

>Jose Nuñez, head of the transplantation program at the World Health Organization, which collects information on transplants worldwide, says that in 2015 the number of foreigners going to China for transplants was “really very low,” compared with the traffic to India, Pakistan or the United States, or in comparison with transplant-visitor numbers in China’s past.

> Chapman and Millis say it is “not plausible” that China could be doing many times more transplants than, for instance, the United States, where about 24,000 transplants take place every year, without that information leaking out as it did when China used condemned prisoners’ organs.

I'd highly suggest taking a more critical approach to your media consumption over believing Western propaganda. The West would have you believe the Chinese are infants and cannot see the corruption of their own government. If Americans can see it in their own why can't other people?

Re: Hong Kong: books by pro-democracy activists disappear from library shelves

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Thank you very much for the suggested readings. Recommendations like yours are very appreciated since I find it difficult to find such content via the usual means of discovery on the internet. I read through the first article. That and similar critical writings certainly make one doubt much of what one has learned and hears...

Now that Glenn Greenwald has been marginalized at The Intercept which produces really inconsistent articles these days, I find the Grayzone is excellent for doing investigative journalism. Some sampling https://thegrayzone.com/2020/04/01/us-conspiracy-theory-on-c... https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/26/forced-labor-china-us-nat... https://thegrayzone.com/2020/03/05/world-uyghur-congress-us-... https://thegrayzone.com/2…

Thank you very much! I will check out their website.
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