"Honeycode – Build Web & Mobile Apps Without Writing Code"
For the sake of clarity, couldn't they have come up with a name that didn't include the word "code" ?
Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like? I strongly believe spreadsheets is the best interface for non tech people, we need need to be able to connect it to data for the non tech folks. Disclaimer: Which is why I am working on https://stitchiq.com/
Spreadsheets are a very good model, and they have tremendous potential (which has been fully utilized) due to their "visual programming" aspect, but the excel formula language, array formulas and VBA are not the best places to ramp up to when things get more complex and advanced. There's quite a bit of horror stories of Excel gone wrong [1] I've been positively suprised that Microsoft seems to have started to finally…
I like Spreadsheets the interface, not the database. I splitting that is where the opportunity is.
Thanks for the link to your publication, will give it a read.
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#253It looks like an Airtable replica to me. I might be wrong. But anyways, AWS getting into no-code (less-code) space is definitely going to impact a lot of small time players. AWS can complete the loop of development to Custom Deployment and It also has bunch of other things in its offerings that anyone would be happy to jump in. I'm just worried about how small-time No-Code players would survive going forward!
Agreed. At least, I don't see anything (other than visual complexity in their UI/UX) that sets them above Airtable.
Good try though.
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#254I didn’t see much in the way of docs from the micro site at least. I’m wondering if there is IAM integration or the ability to call Lambdas. Those would be Airtable-killer features from where I sit.
I think the problem is, it's easy enough to glue to Airtable (lovely API), and the other problem is I'm not sure how you'd generalise the power of Lambdas to a consumer, for whatever this Honeycode thing is.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's one word counterpoint: Excel
It's interesting to me that Excel had a low barrier of entry, but more advanced stuff gets pretty unwieldy. I'm used to wiring complex SQL queries, but some Excel stuff takes me a while to understand.
>but more advanced stuff gets pretty unwieldy
Sounds to me like something like Honeycode is exactly what is needed then, as a replacement for Excel in a business context. It is yet to be seen of course whether or not they can achieve this, or just replace one unwieldy mess for another.
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have any that I can share publicly, but I've had to debug some fairly horrendous sheets. Spreadsheets are a great tool that allows people to leverage computers without knowing how to code, but they can easily get awful to debug. Even excluding stuff like VBA; which is code, but gets included via google-driven copy/paste development. For example, excel formulas from other sheets can modify cells in the existin…
I agree they can get messed up, to understand that I am also working on http://ihatemyspreadsheet.com :) I have yet to hit the issues per se, but what I am partially betting on, is that once spreadsheets are just an interface rather than datastore (where possible), some of those issues can be resolved. One will loose realtime reactivity, but what they were trying to achieve anyway was to access a "canonical" data poi…
Very interested in this concept, I just am unclear how the interface & data can be separated in a way that is easy for spreadsheet users to understand. Users see the cell as the canonical data point, after all, they see all their data in front of them. Perhaps the problem isn't the interface but the way the underlying logic is hidden.
I'd be interested in discussing this more tomorrow, my email is my hn username @gmail if you want to hit me up when you have more details to share.
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#257A while back Microsoft announced Microsoft Lists, which is a similar tool. Of course there are also existing tools like Airtable, Bubble, Mendix etc. All these tools are great, but they have some downsides in my opinion. - If the product ever gets discontinued you might lose all your work. - All these tools have limits regarding the amount of rows you can store. - If your business depends on such a product and the pr…
Wow, that looks great. An COSS alternative is exactly what this space needs. I wish you great success.
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#258I think the thing that "coding without code" fundamentally misses is that learning to actually write Python or Java or whatever is not the hard part of being productive in a business context. The hard part of creating useful software is that you have to understand a business process and its requirements so precisely that you can write it down for the computer to do. I work with business stakeholders creating internal…
Actually, I think this has the potential to increase empathy between pure-business folks and coders. After having a crack and encountering the inevitable bumps in the road, more people will realize writing software isn't just about knowing some funny syntax.
Re: Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code
#259A while back Microsoft announced Microsoft Lists, which is a similar tool. Of course there are also existing tools like Airtable, Bubble, Mendix etc. All these tools are great, but they have some downsides in my opinion. - If the product ever gets discontinued you might lose all your work. - All these tools have limits regarding the amount of rows you can store. - If your business depends on such a product and the pr…
Wow, that looks great. An COSS alternative is exactly what this space needs. I wish you great success.
Thanks! I agree, was surprised to learn that there aren't that many good open source no-code tools out there.
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#260Is this Amazon's disruption of VisualBasic?