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OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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As much as I would like to believe that Joe McRando is going to keep a six foot distance from me and where a mask, I've seen enough to make me believe he wouldn't. Therefore, it stands to reason that it be, maybe not illegal, but definitely very heavily encouraged for people to stay home. It's one of the few cases where I am pro-government power (as much as it kills me inside to say).

When the government tries to prevent measures to limit this overreach (as in the LA mayor not allowing petitions to circulate for his recall) then I have to beg to differ.

Obviously limiting free speech is absolutely not okay.

If I came across as overly combative in my last comment I'd like to apologize, that was not my intention.

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The way I read it, 4chan is like a concentrated version of what it was like to be a teenager at the edge of society. You stir the pot and feed off the energy that people respond with. If you live in a Christian conservative community, you leave pamphlets full of gay porn outside church. In a progressive community, you make racist websites about interracial dating. They aren’t pro gay porn or pro racism, they’re pro g…

"4chan is like a concentrated version of what it was like to be a teenager at the edge of society" Which teenagers and which edge of society, I'm fairly certain they're not all the same. Also your post is what every reader of 4chan says when the discussion comes up.

I'm not a reader of 4chan. I just know people that are, and I try to have empathy for other people's situations.

Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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Sex work is work all the same. From a normative standpoint, we ought to support sex workers directly, rather than the studios and production companies that are often exploitative. OnlyFans seems to get rid of the middlemen in the porn / cam girl industry, I think that's a massive benefit for sex workers today.

My question to most people on this forum are: would you really be ok if your daughter was best friends with a sex worker? Everybody says "of course!" in theory... but in reality I think it falls apart. Lots of blurred moral lines.

Yeah I think a lot of people like to pretend on the internet that they're super accepting and liberal, but if their daughter told them she was a whore, they wouldn't be so accepting behind close doors.

Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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For non-US HN readers: In the US, the IRS assumes you make a certain amount in tips if you work in a job that customarily allows tipping. So when a customer doesn't tip, the waiter still has to pay taxes on the money you didn't give them. But wait, it gets worse (this being the US): Some states allow paying waiters less than minimum wage if tipping is customary. As low as $2/hour. So a waiter could actually end up ow…

This is completely crazy. Its just one of these absurd Americanisms that we should take a look at during COVID and not continue.

It doesn't even exist right now That guy os full of shit and you know it. If a waiter makes less than min wage, the restaurant makes up for the difference. And guess what? Waitresses like that, because on all but the slowest of nights, you'll make much more than min wage from tips. I swear you people spend more time circlejerking about how shitty America is without knowing anything but the newest Javascript library.

Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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But they will work without tips. Nobody is making you tip. Why not just pay for your meal and leave?

For non-US HN readers: In the US, the IRS assumes you make a certain amount in tips if you work in a job that customarily allows tipping. So when a customer doesn't tip, the waiter still has to pay taxes on the money you didn't give them. But wait, it gets worse (this being the US): Some states allow paying waiters less than minimum wage if tipping is customary. As low as $2/hour. So a waiter could actually end up ow…

It doesn't even exist right now That guy os full of shit and you know it. If a waiter makes less than min wage, the restaurant makes up for the difference. And guess what? Waitresses like that, because on all but the slowest of nights, you'll make much more than min wage from tips. I swear you people spend more time circlejerking about how shitty America is without knowing anything but the newest Javascript library.

Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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Hold up, if a waiter makes less than minimum wage after tips, the company has to make up the difference. This is a federal labour law, and if treated otherwise, is completely illegal.

Does your average waiter have the time and energy to devote to suing the local restaurant when it doesn't pay? Most of the time, and as they should, they just go find another job. I would hate to become known as the employee who sues my employer if they don't pay me.

Is that really your defense for posting 100% false information? Seriously? Owing more money to the irs than you make, because they "assume" you made minimum wage? You're a dumbass, straight up.

Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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> A view having been held and taken for granted for a long time doesn't make it correct. The leftist mob of blue Twitter checkmarks has been cancelling people since about... 2012? It's trendy to be pro sex work, anti-corporation in 2020. The majority of people commenting online about how "pro sex work" they are do not have a sex worker in their life by a longshot. It's all theory/keyboard warrior/armchair activist st…

And who are you to gatekeep what causes people can and cannot support without a direct association? Also, you completely discredited yourself from any sort of worthy debate with "leftist mob".

Calm down neckbeard, back to your Javascript

Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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Can you explain what is morally wrong with buying or selling sex? I’m not “trendy”, it’s a deeply held philosophical belief about individual freedom.

I don't feel like the average person who says "I'm ok with females selling sex" would actually be ok + proud of their mother / daughter / sister / grandma / cousin if they sold sex for a living.

Because they wouldn't. These idiot redditors just like these kind of leftist circlejerks

Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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Sex addiction fueled by free internet porn has ruined countless lives. I would like to see a citation on this. Moral panics around sexuality are at least a couple centuries old, and technologies that are said to have contributed to or created them include the printing press, radio, the bicycle, the car, TV, movies, magazines, and now the Internet. For many of the earlier technologies, Gay Talese's book Thy Neighbor's…

Nicole Prause is a lucid, pioneering researcher on such issues, and she has spent a lot of time debunking myths like the one GP proposes. One write-up here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/understanding-the-er... (She has unfortunately become a target of certain right-wing elements, so if you Google her, you will find a lot of non-scientific attacks. You should read her publications directly and form your own…

And by "form your own opinion" you mean left only.

Re: OnlyFans, influencers, and the politics of selling nudes during a pandemic

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Do people really think that watching other people have sex is "healthy"?

Sure, it's a safe way to explore one's sexuality.

"explore one's sexuality."

That actually means absolutely nothing lmao.

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