Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order that closed businesses

Post by jacobush » Thu, May 14, 2020, 9:33 AM UTC

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srj wrote: post #159

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You're saying coronavirus mortality figures are fabricated by state and hospital personnel, adding it to death certificates when it was not the cause. What's led you to that conclusion?

That isn't what I said. I'm saying that coronavirus is being listed as the primary cause of death in bad-faith. According to the CDC guidelines[1]: In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” My concl…

Post by jacobush » Thu, May 14, 2020, 9:35 AM UTC

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> If the legislature resists, or the court doesn't grant the stay, that sucks, the bars and restaurants will open, people will get sick and die. Or maybe the Republicans will turn out correct and everything is fine. This assertion needs a citation. If this should be true either hospitalization must be so high that it overwhelms the health system, which was the original justification for the lockdown, or death rate mu…

Meanwhile, Sweden never had shelter in place orders, and they did not fare worse than France or Ireland.

Post by dgzl » Thu, May 14, 2020, 9:38 AM UTC

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>But what about the US? If all government is corrupt, if all taxes are sin, if all leaders on the other side are traitors to the cause, the people will never respect those in charge. >The people don't obey the "orders" nor follow advice. Then they wrap themselves in the flag and actively work against the measures in the name of freedom. I'm strongly against big government, disagree with most R's and D's, will gladly…

This is not true at all. You know people in other western countries are actually significantly more free than in the USA right? New Zealand is widely regarded as the most free country, and they also don’t have coronavirus.

Post by dgzl » Thu, May 14, 2020, 9:41 AM UTC

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> By and large we have the rights we want. And I assume you fool yourself into not wanting any of the rights you don't have, my fellow subject of the crown? Won't it be fun to be able to teach a pug to do a nazi salute once in a while?

Oi oi, do you have a license for that hot opinion?

Post by DanBC » Thu, May 14, 2020, 9:46 AM UTC

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You're allowed to teach your pug to do Nazi salutes. You're not allowed to film yourself saying "gas the Jews" 20 times while showing your dog doing Nazi salutes. [EDIT...and then broadcast this to your YouTube channel] He went to court and he could have tried a freedom of speech defence but he chose not to.

I must be missing something, where is the distinction here? They seem like equally problematic actions of speech.