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Re: Firefox 76

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Post by igetspam »

carapace wrote: post #228
tenryuu wrote: post #214

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It has already been removed https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D70023

Ah Goddamnit. That "megabar" is going to drive me away from Firefox. (And into the arms of Vivaldi, or something like that...)

The first time I saw it, I thought it was a UI bug. Is it supposed to expand, cartoonishly, beyond the confines of the existing bar, when you select it for input? It feels like an element designed as a helper for people with limited wrist/hand mobility (who need a larger target area) or poor eyesight.

I guess I'll head back to SeaMonkey now. The UI hasn't changed in a decade but at least the UI hasn't changed in a decade.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by igetspam »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #71
prophesi wrote: post #64

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It's just the HN effect; complain about the most minute details. Firefox simply wanted it to be more obvious that the address bar is in focus the moment you open a new tab.

Reddit was pretty annoyed too. I actually did a little real-life poll ( I admittedly might care about minute details too much!), and everyone was either indifferent or negative. Indifference was more common, but, is that really a good outcome? > Firefox simply wanted it to be more obvious that the address bar is in focus the moment you open a new tab. Is that it? Because I'm still trying to figure this out! I'm just…

I'm shocked that was the goal but I also couldn't grok the intent. The bar doesn't need to expand and look silly to make it obvious it's the selected input. We have perfectly adequate elements for that already. I assumed there were new features that they were trying to highlight in a non obvious way.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

igetspam wrote: post #251
carapace wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah Goddamnit. That "megabar" is going to drive me away from Firefox. (And into the arms of Vivaldi, or something like that...)

The first time I saw it, I thought it was a UI bug. Is it supposed to expand, cartoonishly, beyond the confines of the existing bar, when you select it for input? It feels like an element designed as a helper for people with limited wrist/hand mobility (who need a larger target area) or poor eyesight. I guess I'll head back to SeaMonkey now. The UI hasn't changed in a decade but at least the UI hasn't changed in a de…

> Is it supposed to expand, cartoonishly, beyond the confines of the existing bar, when you select it for input?

Yes.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by kroltan »

chrismorgan wrote: post #240
kroltan wrote: post #114

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I'm not sure if this is still the case, but Youtube used to use WebComponents v0 which has to be emulated in JS in non-Webkit browsers, since only Google ever implemented v0, while everyone else agreed it required a bit more work, and other engines run v1 instead, which is not compatible.

The main YouTube site seems to still be lousy in Firefox. Buttons that should open dropdowns (e.g. the top right corner user icon and notifications icon) don’t. If I want to actually see notifications, I need to tack ?disable_polymer=1 onto the URL and experience the ancient site! YouTube Studio doesn’t suffer from these problems.

Hmm, seems to work fine for me.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by ukyrgf »

ukyrgf wrote: post #193
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #30

> The shadow around the address bar field is reduced in width when a new tab is opened; I mean, at least they're trying, I guess. Still seems to me like lipstick on a pig. I'm still trying to figure out what UX problem the expanding bar was intended to address.

Yeah as somebody that uses the bookmarks bar, this is just maddening. First I go to about:config on my personal profile, great. But I have a work profile, and once again I have to turn it off. Dev Edition gets the update, gotta turn it off there. Login to desktop at work. Repeat all 3 of those. Oh, work laptop also needs all 3 to get updated. Then I move to my MacBook, gotta turn it off again. Power up my old Dell XP…

Ah!!! And they changed it again! Now it's a setting called browser.urlbar.update2.expandTextOnFocus. This is seriously obnoxious.

Edit: Actually, nothing works on Dev Edition anymore. No matter what I toggle, the stupid location bar expands when you click on it.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by zeveb »

narag wrote: post #3

Anybody using Firefox password manager that can comment on it? Is it considered safe enough? Are the passwords stored remotely if you have multi-device profiles? Edit: I asked because I see that some of the updats are related.

> Is it considered safe enough?

No: Mozilla have access to your passwords if you use the Sync feature.

They encrypt your passwords with a key encrypted by a key generated from your Firefox Account password, and you enter that password on a web page they serve from servers they control. At any point they can start or stop serving malicious JavaScript to one, many or all users logging in, and steal your master password, then use that to decrypt your stored passwords.

Yes, they could also target users in Firefox itself, but that would leave traces in the Firefox binaries, and users should not automatically install Firefox updates the way they 'install' JavaScript on every page load.

If you do not use the Sync feature I believe that the password manager is okay enough.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #142
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #128

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Almost everyone I know uses Google instead of the address bar, gah.

That means they still use the address bar though, doesn't it? Either to type the search term, or to go to Google.com.

You'd think .. but no: Google is the default homepage, so they type in to the search field. It's mad.

Some have Bing as their homepage, if you've ever done IT training you might know the next line. They do it differently, they type "Google", click a link to go to Google, then type "BBC" (say), and click on the link for "bbc.co.uk". It's insane.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

chimen wrote: post #102

There are 2 things I miss from switching to FF: Right click on a picture -> search google for image Right click -> Translate page Everything else seems smooth enough.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/image-search-... has like 10 different search engines, including Google, Bing, Baidu, and many anime-focused search engines.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by Marsymars »

asdff wrote: post #246
recursive wrote: post #221

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meh, I mostly like it.

It would be great if they just checked for updates on startup like almost every other program. I use powerpoint twice a year. I don't need auto update taking center focus on my screen, interrupting whatever I'm doing, every week that powerpoint gets a patch.

On Windows or macOS? You can install PowerPoint via the App Store on macOS, which is great. Only MS product I have that use the MS Updater on macOS is Edge.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by chrismorgan »

kroltan wrote: post #254
chrismorgan wrote: post #240

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The main YouTube site seems to still be lousy in Firefox. Buttons that should open dropdowns (e.g. the top right corner user icon and notifications icon) don’t. If I want to actually see notifications, I need to tack ?disable_polymer=1 onto the URL and experience the ancient site! YouTube Studio doesn’t suffer from these problems.

Hmm, seems to work fine for me.

I have no idea when it stopped working, because I scarcely ever used the affected buttons until very recently—I have a vague feeling it might have worked three or four years ago, but in the last couple of months it’s definitely not been working for me.

uBlock Origin is the only extension that I have that could feasibly alter anything, and all it’s doing is blocking googleads.g.doubleclick.net. Nothing of interest shows up in the dev tools. 99.9% sure the bug is with YouTube, though in what particular way I cannot guess.

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