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Re: Firefox 74

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I am surprised that browsing experience looks mostly the same as it did in the beginning of web browsing. Browsers are almost operating systems, yet they look like, well.. content readers. Nowadays I tend to work on several "projects" or tasks in paralel and for each project I open multiple tabs. I am opening multiple windows but it's easy to get lost in what each of these windows belongs to, difficult to switch between them, browser windows all look the same. Containers are not exactly good for this as they have their own cookies/local storage (different use case). It seems to me that browsers are not evolving in the actual end user usability that much. Also, more generally, why can't we have electron built-in in the browser, integrated with OS (so windows would look like a native app with it's own icon, title, etc)? Why does there need to be a separate Electron "browser" for every webapp instead of reusing already running browser with extra, per-app elevated API access? Why are browsers using vague version numbering instead of semver as it used to be? I don't know if FF 74 is the massive upgrade from 73 or if it is similar to the change from 72 to 73 or 71 to 72. And will it still take 2 seconds to get visual feedback after clicking the button in that fancy marerial SPA on my cutting-edge desktop machine?

Re: Firefox 74

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But there are thousands big ones out there. Cloudflare, Cloudfront, Baidu, Yandex, Akamai, Tencent, Twitter, Yahoo, Disqus, Uber, Airbnb, Pinterest etc. Why bring up Apple and Netflix specifically?

Going for the high trees instead of low hanging fruit. Why? On average, larger impact. There's Invidation addon to avoid Twitter/YouTube and redirect to Nitter/Invidious, and there's some addons to avoid CDNs such as Cloudflare / Amazon/ Akamai. There's also an addon to remove garbage in URLs such as AMP (I mean, wtf?). If you want to avoid these completely, plus GAFAM, your internet (browsing) experience isn't annoy…

If Baidu, Tencent, Cloudflare etc are "low hanging fruit" then Netflix is an even lower hanging fruit. It's just a streaming service. Even Twitch has a wider audience than them. Which is the reason I was confused why you brought those two up specifically, instead of the bigger players who are way more ubiquitous.

Invidition is just a wrapper. Doesn't solve the larger problem which is what's happening on the server. Last time I tried it YouTube was completely broken because Google changed a tiny little thing.

Re: Firefox 74

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That just sounds like more micromanagement to me?

What is the difference to answering 10 to 20 "Allow/Deny?" question on each website? The website just won't work until you figure out which 3 of the 15 requests are needed to render the website properly. Most of these domains aren't "microsoft.com" but something like "gibberish123.net". Good luck guessing whether the request is legitime/usefull. edit: sounds like another addon idea: find the minimal set of 3rd partie…

> find the minimal set of 3rd parties needed to render a website.

uMatrix tries to do this already with some third party scripts, but it’s a moving target.

Re: Firefox 74

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You can just make a shortcut to run `firefox --no-remote" --profile foo`. Poor UX, but the feature works.

Interesting. What exactly does the `--no-remote` command do? I couldn't find any real detailed info about from a quick search. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Lin...

Here's a longer explanation. https://www.brycevandyk.com/dissecting-firefoxs-no-remote-op... By default, Firefox looks for an already running instance and attaches to it, opening a new window in the existing session. --no-remote disables that connecting behavior.

Re: Firefox 74

#255

The desktop version should be a lower-level priority in the mobile driven world. The Android version of the browser is still annoyingly slow and too complex to be a daily default. Brave, with it's dead easy setup should be an example to follow.

Did you try FF preview 4? It's quite good.

Re: Firefox 74

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Now that Apple is forcing app developers to use Sign in with Apple -- and developers will have to also allow it on their websites so you can access your account there -- Apple will be able to use the Sign in with Apple javascript they serve to track you around the web just like Facebook and Google do, even if you don't use any Apple products.

While this is true, it is obvious how the other names he listed would benefit from such tracking. It is not clear to me why Apple would do this, as it runs opposite of their product marketing, and their business model does not obviously benefit from tracking the way the others do.

I didn't say they would or should. Just that they will be able to.

Re: Firefox 74

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post #245

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I can only close tabs with Ctrl+W. Clicking on the 'x' button does nothing.

Something's weird, then, given the number of Mozilla devs who use TST. Try in safe mode / try in a different profile / file a bug. (I am running Nightly and am happily clicking away TST tabs with the 'x'.)

Thanks. Reinstalling the extension fixed it.

Re: Firefox 74

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Even if Facebook is containerized, if you make a purchase on .com they might just tell Facebook (without the browser involved)

But that site would have to know what your Facebook profile is. And with FB domains blocked outside of the FB container, they're going to have a harder time putting that info together.

But that site would have to know what your Facebook profile is. And with FB domains blocked outside of the FB container, they're going to have a harder time putting that info together.

Nope. I didn't find a lot of activity here (most was wrong), but Albertsons and Home Depot had hits. I've never given either my Facebook info.

https://facebook.com/off_facebook_activity/

Re: Firefox 74

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post #245

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Something's weird, then, given the number of Mozilla devs who use TST. Try in safe mode / try in a different profile / file a bug. (I am running Nightly and am happily clicking away TST tabs with the 'x'.)

Thanks. Reinstalling the extension fixed it.

Did that lose your existing tree structure and flatten everything?

Re: Firefox 74

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> What does Chrome do better? I haven't used Chrome in a long time, but this is the primary major thing I miss from it (possibly the only thing). E.g. we have a family computer that my spouse and I use. I have set up separate profiles for us and forced Firefox to ask which profile to use on launch. But this means that if she has the browser open and has stepped away, I can't just open a new window, switch to my profi…

Out of curiosity, why not have another user account on the computer? Windows is pretty simple to move between user accounts as is Linux and, although I haven't use macOS recently enough to comment, it was pretty easy the last time I did. I'm sure our use cases are different but I'd like to understand yours better.

Ya know, this never even crossed my mind. Hah. Good point.
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