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Is It a Pandemic Yet?

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Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

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> According to Wikipedia, Coronavirus has killed about 2000 people. It's mostly isolated to 1 province in China. If you extrapolate those deaths world wide, you're talking 10s of millions of people dead if it goes pandemic.

You can't really extrapolate things like that though. Try extrapolating west virginia diabetes related death to the world and we'd be fucked too.

I don't know that this needs to be said, but -- diabetes isn't contagious.

Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

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Can someone explain to me why coronavirus is getting so much coverage? According to Wikipedia, Coronavirus has killed about 2000 people. Each year smoking kills 480,000 people in the US. In two days smoking will have killed more people in the US than coronavirus has worldwide. Shouldn't we have headlines about this every day? Or any of the other far more deadly things (traffic accidents, heart disease, suicide, etc.)…

I guess because somewhat bad diseases make good news. When you discover a new disease, then the mortality will be quite high, because you only see the cases so bad that people went to specialized hospitals, while you don't know anything about all the people with light cases, they just take a day off from work and never bother a doctor.

Once you are past the "new and incredible deadly disease" headlines, the disease is news, because it was previously reported in the newspaper.

Contrast that with a well known disease like the flu, the initial headline is not there because a flu wave is not news, if it is not a once in a decade bad flu season. (And note, once in a decade bad is only known at the tail end of the flu season, not at the start.)

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Nearer 2%.

2% is the number of death when you have Intensive Care Unit beds to provide oxygen, fluids, anti viral drugs to serious case. 15% is the number of serious cases on average. So once you have filled all your ICU, you cannot take any serious case anymore, so I would say the most apocalyptic case is that all hospitals are overwhelmed, and you cannot address any serious case, so 15% is still possible in the most horrific…

So we can stop this right now if everyone goes home and stays there

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We were looking into Covid-19 at the office and after digging through the scariness we realized mortality rate for healthy 30-somethings is around 0.1%. Then we said screw it and stopped worrying. We’re most likely gonna be fine. Even if it becomes widespread the odds are ever in our favor. Plus there’s already a few confirmed cases in SFBA so ... Edit: for the downvoters, I’m not say spread disease with wonton aband…

I'm amazed that people seem to ignore that EVERYBODY has parents and grandparents. I fear not for myself but my parents or grandparents catching it.

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So Italy having an arguably uncontained cluster is probably the most troubling part. The EU has extremely porous borders. The chances of this spreading to the other EU members (and the UK) got a lot higher. At least in the US you largely have to come in by air. Yes of course there are land borders. Canada is one but fits the same description of most cross-border travel (apart from to the US) is by air. The border wit…

> The border with Mexico is... probably more of an issue. AFAIK there are no confirmed cases in Mexico. It wouldn't surprise me if that was because of the inability of the government to detect it. I live in Mexico and I believe if it gets here it will be unstoppable. The government doesn't have the resources China has to contain and track infected people.

Mexico did well in containing the H1N1 flu in 2009. Granted, COVID19 seems much more infectious, and our current government has repeatedly cut funding to public health, so you're maybe right.

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> The border with Mexico is... probably more of an issue. AFAIK there are no confirmed cases in Mexico. It wouldn't surprise me if that was because of the inability of the government to detect it. I live in Mexico and I believe if it gets here it will be unstoppable. The government doesn't have the resources China has to contain and track infected people.

Mexico did well in containing the H1N1 flu in 2009. Granted, COVID19 seems much more infectious, and our current government has repeatedly cut funding to public health, so you're maybe right.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but COVID2019 is a much different beast than H1N1. Time will tell.

Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

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In particular, chloroquine has been shown to be helpful in treatment and is readily available in developing countries since it's used as a malaria medicine (and there are replacements available in developed countries). in vitro: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0 practice: https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bst/advpub/0/advpub_202...

Yeah it's one thing that gives some hope. Recently: >Chloroquine Phosphate, which has been used for more than 70 years, has been tested in 135 cases in Beijing and southern China's Guangdong Province. Among them, 130 patients have light and common symptoms, and five are severe patients. >None of the patients with light and common symptoms have developed severe symptoms. Four severe patients have been discharged from…

Also a good opportunity to ramp up on gin and tonics.

Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

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I feel fairly uncertain as to how seriously I should /personally/ take COVID19 living in a large American city as a healthy young person with no upcoming travel. I see some friends seriously taking precautions (like buying masks) already, which up-to-this-point I've found a little absurd. Could anyone who knows better perhaps enlighten me on how I ought to be reacting to this?

You probably won't die, esp since you're young, but it's certainly possible that you could get caught up in a quarantine. Best to have a good supply of any required drugs, etc.

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If you are using Brave or Firefox, you can just use "reader mode" to bypass the paywall.

How do you enable reader mode in Brave?

For Brave 1.5.5 you toggle: Settings -> Accessibility -> Simplified view.

After making this change, the option to switch views will appear at the bottom of the screen, but only if Brave detects/decides that the page is suitable for this view.

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