Can only wish i could do that but working for a local telco i have to have a "live" SIM all the time. Because i do callouts 24/7
Living without a SIM card
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Re: Living without a SIM card
#252If saving money is the reason, go for a prepaid card. German/Dutch prepaid cards have far long credit life. I travel full-time nowadays and I can use my KPN number for less than €1 per year. German Alditalk credit lasts 24 months IIRC, and topping up extends the credit shelf life. Pretty much every SIM card has free incoming SMS when roaming. USSD are also free with some carriers. Losing SIM card is less of a hassle…
A German/Dutch sim card doesn't help someone living in Indonesia/Malaysia. Also, the fact that the credit lasts 24 months before they steal it for not using it is meaningless, since life with a sim that has no data and makes no outgoing calls or sms is almost identical to life without a sim, except for the tracking and the ability to be found by others. So i think it completely misses the message.
You can receive unlimited amount of SMSs for free.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
My sister’s former boyfriend used to carry a phone without a SIM. His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. Feel free to live off the grid, but please make sure you don’t leech off of those around you.
He could've just used a SIP client (plus e.g. WLAN, which does not even have to be on 24/7), and being the one who initializes the call. If he does it on a sane time, then he'll reach contact.
You presume that he wanted his parents to be able to contact him.
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
He could've just used a SIP client (plus e.g. WLAN, which does not even have to be on 24/7), and being the one who initializes the call. If he does it on a sane time, then he'll reach contact.
You presume that he wanted his parents to be able to contact him.
I don't. My use-case, where you have a SIP client and WLAN, allows for you to be disconnected, and only connect when you feel like it. It is akin to Invisible mode on ICQ; and that was perfect for people who wanted to lay low.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
My sister’s former boyfriend used to carry a phone without a SIM. His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. Feel free to live off the grid, but please make sure you don’t leech off of those around you.
You don't seem too impressed by those that make the choice to live off the grid...
> You don't seem too impressed by those that make the choice to live off the grid...
I don't think the author of that post is living "off the grid" at all.
I am surprised nobody noticed that he mentioned he uses OKCupid.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/01/grindr-and-okcupid-sel...
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have friends that like you enough to chase you around to try and make plans, that's awesome. I'm thrilled for you and I'd have to imagine you're an awesome person. The fact that you refer to people trying to make plans with you as an imposition on you tells me that might not be the case, but I'm not in any position to judge either way.
> "If you have friends that like you enough to chase you around to try and make plans, that's awesome. I'm thrilled for you and I'd have to imagine you're an awesome person." Tons of assumptions packed into your post here, all of which are incorrect due to your own lack of perspective. Let me put this into perspective for you. So that you can better understand the totally warped and ridiculous mindset of antisocial,…
> Such people will have this greatly exaggerated bias against you, as if you have placed this enormous unwanted burden on their shoulders
Maybe what's really going is that you made them conscious of having an enormous unwanted burden on their shoulders. And every time yet another compromise is forced on them, the weight increases. And you had the strength to shrug it off.
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That's easy to fix though - I am putting my phone to do-not-disturb (or even airplane) mode when I go to sleep every day and I honestly don't see any disadvantages of doing that. If somebody calls me when I'm sleeping, I will react when I wake up. I don't think giving the people on the whole world the ability to wake me up whenever they want to is justified in any way.
Well I kow I should do that, but perhaps because I'm near my fifties (so lived a lot without a mobile phone), I always fail to remember to active it back when I wake up. My wife (who is younger than me, as in 16y younger) do that too and have no problem. For me, if I do it, I sure remember, but 2 or 3 days later :-D
I have been on do not disturb mode 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for the last few years. It’s actually amazing. It has allowed me to use my phone on my own terms, when I choose to, not on someone else’s terms when they want me to.
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well I kow I should do that, but perhaps because I'm near my fifties (so lived a lot without a mobile phone), I always fail to remember to active it back when I wake up. My wife (who is younger than me, as in 16y younger) do that too and have no problem. For me, if I do it, I sure remember, but 2 or 3 days later :-D
I have been on do not disturb mode 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for the last few years. It’s actually amazing. It has allowed me to use my phone on my own terms, when I choose to, not on someone else’s terms when they want me to.
I haven't gone that far because unwanted phone calls aren't a problem for me, so I've just turned off most notifications and it's been great. Email is a much better tool when you don't have notifications on, I'm much better at paying bills because I check a couple of times a day when it's also convenient to pay them, with notifications on I'll swipe away and forget. Same goes for things I actually want to read, I'll read them properly now instead of a quick skim at an inopportune time.
Google has been awful at respecting my decision though, they'll keep enabling various news notifications and the have a very different opinion on "breaking news" than I do, I think the last one was for some Hollywood awards show. If there really is some breaking news I need to be interrupted for then the government emergency SMS service should suffice.
I first read this on HN: app notifications should really be called app interruptions. It really changes how things should be viewed.
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "If you have friends that like you enough to chase you around to try and make plans, that's awesome. I'm thrilled for you and I'd have to imagine you're an awesome person." Tons of assumptions packed into your post here, all of which are incorrect due to your own lack of perspective. Let me put this into perspective for you. So that you can better understand the totally warped and ridiculous mindset of antisocial,…
> Such people will have this greatly exaggerated bias against you, as if you have placed this enormous unwanted burden on their shoulders Maybe what's really going is that you made them conscious of having an enormous unwanted burden on their shoulders. And every time yet another compromise is forced on them, the weight increases. And you had the strength to shrug it off.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "If you have friends that like you enough to chase you around to try and make plans, that's awesome. I'm thrilled for you and I'd have to imagine you're an awesome person." Tons of assumptions packed into your post here, all of which are incorrect due to your own lack of perspective. Let me put this into perspective for you. So that you can better understand the totally warped and ridiculous mindset of antisocial,…
> Such people will have this greatly exaggerated bias against you, as if you have placed this enormous unwanted burden on their shoulders Maybe what's really going is that you made them conscious of having an enormous unwanted burden on their shoulders. And every time yet another compromise is forced on them, the weight increases. And you had the strength to shrug it off.
I simply have a low tolerance for "just putting up with things." The things people are out there tolerating in their lives just staggers the mind.
Like junk mail, to name another easy example. I complained about all the junk mail one time at the postal counter, and the woman replied, quote, "You call it junk mail; we call it job security."
(Which is exactly why I no longer have a mailbox, either; just a PO box that I check once in a while. I refuse to waste away my precious life dealing with such bullshit.)
Tells you everything you need to know right there about the entire society, really. The rot is everywhere. Which is why increasingly the only sane option is to Opt Out from the madness entirely.
Life is much more peaceful on this side of the fence.
I remember playing Leisure Suit Larry back in the day. I think it was episode 2 or 3, where at the end of the game the story goes that Larry has retired to his "programmer's shack" out on a lake in the wilderness, to write the next LSL game.
I remember being struck by the beauty of that scene--the idea of being out in a shack on a lake, alone in the wilderness, nothing but me and the compiler. The "escaping from the world" aspect seems to have been a large part of the allure, especially as a kid, dreaming about not having to wake up early and go to that sorry ass school in the morning. No more society and its constant demands and burdens. Just living, in peace and contentment.
Today I am blessed to also have my own "programmer's shack" on a lake out in the wilderness, with nothing but me and the compiler and time.
I'll take this life over a $500k Silly-Con Valley rat race job any day of the week. And indeed, the very reason I'm here today is because that's the choice I made, period.
People have a lot more control over their lives than they allow themselves to believe. Where they inevitably end up is a result of their choices and actions. As time goes on, more and more will see the wisdom of unplugging and dropping out of this insane society. It's no big loss. In time we'll start our own new and better society.