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Starlink Is a Big Deal

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Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

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post #62

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It would be nice if I could select the location manually, since I don't like sharing my location directly by a prompt. When I got the location permission request I denied it and then it says there were no sightings available for the next 5 days :(

If you deny the location permission it uses geoip instead. If the geoip location is incorrect there's a "Change Location" link you can use.

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Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

#252
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you deny the location permission it uses geoip instead. If the geoip location is incorrect there's a "Change Location" link you can use.

Perhaps it could be better other way around. Start with GeoIP and add an "Improve Location" option. That way more people would enable it.

It'd arguably be best to offer explicit choices to users:

* manually entered location

* IP address based geoip

* location permission

The site doesn't work at all for me, even if I give location permission. Because that's disabled in Firefox.

Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

#253
post #66

I'm not convinced that Starlink will provide access to the "half of the human beings (who) are not online yet." Of course that would be good, yet my guess is that Starlink will target people in developed nations who are in rural areas, or people who want low latency. Maybe Starlink could serve people w/o internet if a whole village buys a subscription, or if a cell provider uses Starlink as backhaul for voice? Still…

These aren't geostationary satellites. There's no opportunity cost to selling service when flying over poorer countries. Of course, the price has to include the backhaul, and even poor countries have rich residents, but in any event it would be silly to fly over whole landmasses in silence.

> in any event it would be silly to fly over whole landmasses in silence.

It wouldn't if the satellite network is operating at capacity, and therefore you can't guarantee service.

Satellites communicate with one another to send information around the world. Most servers are not in developing nations— a lot of them are in the US, for example. Satellites from all over the world will all try to reach the ones that are near the US, so those will dictate the actual capacity of the entire network.

If the network operates at capacity, prices will rise so low-profit customers leave and make space for high-paying ones.

Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

#254
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it could be better other way around. Start with GeoIP and add an "Improve Location" option. That way more people would enable it.

It'd arguably be best to offer explicit choices to users: * manually entered location * IP address based geoip * location permission The site doesn't work at all for me, even if I give location permission. Because that's disabled in Firefox.

Those choices are all present, and the site works fine with location disabled. I test that.

Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

#255

Right now there are only 60 and you can already see them? How about when there are 12,000 or 30,000 or however many they wanna put up there? It's going to cover the entire night sky. I feel claustrophobic just thinking about it. I don't want this and I have a feeling I'm not alone in that.

Why? We are covered by thunderstorms, fog and rain; not a problem.

I'm not. Climate is not global or permanent, but a constellation of satellites like this pretty much is.

Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

#256

Just going to plug my Starlink tracker here: https://james.darpinian.com/satellites/?special=starlink It tells you when to go outside and look up to see the satellites as they pass over your house. It's a cool sight to see because there are up to 60 of them crossing the sky at the same time in a line.

That was unexpectedly splendid: my city isn't covered by StreetView, with the sole exception of the interior of the city museum in the old palace. So according to the simulated view tomorrow at 0612 I can look for a string of pearls gliding across the gilded baroque ceiling of my unaccustomedly spacious bedroom.

Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

#257
post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you deny the location permission it uses geoip instead. If the geoip location is incorrect there's a "Change Location" link you can use.

Perhaps it could be better other way around. Start with GeoIP and add an "Improve Location" option. That way more people would enable it.

Most users will let the site use their device’s gps. Having the first step to be ”input your gps coordinates” would alienate a HUGE portion of the possible users.

Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

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post #87
post #86

> For reference, my last flat in Berlin (the capital of the largest economy in the EU), on the ground on a main street in the city center, was serviced with approximately 14MBps ADSL, and this was the fastest offering available from any vendor. 14Mbps in Berlin? How is this possible? I had 20Mbps in Mexico City almost a decade ago. A family member who lived in the same building at the time had 100Mbps symmetrical.

Mostly policy. Spain deployed a lot of fiber in the las 10 years that we've got little towns with multiple symmetric 600mbps offerings. If it can be done in Spain, it can be done in Germany.

+1 on Spanish internet, there seems to be fast (100Mbps+) internet available pretty much everywhere.

EU-wide, the official goal (https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/broadband-euro...) is to have 100Mbps available to every EU household by 2025, with 1Gbps & 5G in all major cities.

Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

#259
Comparing speed to ADSL is ridiculous. Slow ground internet is not a technology issue, it is a political issue.

Even in russia in most major cities everyone (!) have optical (!) fiber directly (!) in their apartment (!).

If you want you can get 10GB in your average home. In USA in SF in Bernal Heights i can get RF link with 30mbits at best for ~5x price.

Re: Starlink Is a Big Deal

#260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd arguably be best to offer explicit choices to users: * manually entered location * IP address based geoip * location permission The site doesn't work at all for me, even if I give location permission. Because that's disabled in Firefox.

Those choices are all present, and the site works fine with location disabled. I test that.

OK, I navigate to the site in Firefox 60.3.0esr (64-bit) in Debian, and allow everything in NoScript. Then I see this:

> See Starlink

> Click to search for viewing times at your location.

So I click, and see a popup:

> Will you allow james.darpinian.com to access your location?

So I click on "Allow Location Access".

Then I see "Loading", with a GIF. But nothing ever loads.

Checking about:config, I see that NoScript likely added these:

> capability.policy.maonoscript.sites modified string [numerous domains]

> noscript.untrusted modified string [numerous domains]

I get the same result if I don't allow location access.

That's all I know offhand. But I'll be happy to check more carefully, if you like.

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