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iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by jschwartzi »

accatyyc wrote: post #227
jschwartzi wrote: post #138

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Actually the radio is the biggest gripe I have with Spotify. They globally aggregate everything you've ever liked, so if you have tastes in multiple genres it's basically impossible to get your indie rock stations to stop playing EG trance or house music without also telling Spotify that no you actually don't like the dance music you also play sometimes. The curated playlists are much better mainly because their radi…

How do you start the radio? If you start it from a song of the genre you want to listen to now, or a playlist containing mostly that genre, it won't mix in random stuff you've liked before. I get very nice mood/genre radios just by starting them from some song I liked currently.

Usually from a song or playlist, and no matter where I've started it it will start mixing stuff in that isn't remotely similar. Unless it's trance or house.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by bromuro »

nobleach wrote: post #41
rconti wrote: post #4

Don't forget the mundane detail of "I have no idea what Apple did with my 60GB music library or how to get it on my phone again". Thankfully I've been a spotify subscriber for years so I can just keep kicking that can down the road, but some day I'd like my music back.

I had one of those really nice 100GB music libraries that I had been ripping from CDs since 1998. (and Napster/WinMX/Kazaa/Limewire-ing because... I was young, stupid and poor) I had meticulously been fixing ID3 tags, and putting them into the folder structure that made me happy. Then one day, I did a new Mac setup, and forgot to tick the box that said, "let me manage my library layout" and BAM. iTunes moved everythi…

Same here!

How not to mention Jaikoz? This small expensive horrible yet useful java software does organize MP3s for you - it even connect to online DBs. I use it since those times...

http://www.jthink.net/jaikoz/

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Post by sbarre »

pwinnski wrote: post #249
sbarre wrote: post #120

The elephant in the room here is that Apple forces you to use the Music app to manage/navigate/enjoy the music you have locally on your phone (I'm 90% sure I'm right about this). They maintain a monopoly on that functionality, and therefore when they make decisions that don't align with your desires or expectations, you have no recourse. You can't just use a different app - on your own device - that suits you better.…

I'm 100% sure you're wrong about this. For example, Marvis Pro exists. Heck, multiple web interfaces to Apple Music exist!

Yes it was demonstrated that I was wrong, I tried to edit my comment but it was too late, so I added a reply to indicate it, and thanked the 4-5 people who came before you to indicate this as well. :-)

my bad.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by vlucas »

hyperdimension wrote: post #236
vlucas wrote: post #86

> First things first, why do I get a tab bar with 5 icons, and I only ever use 2 of them? I don’t care about “For You”, “Browse” and I certainly don’t give a rat’s ass about ”Radio”. You lost me on the opening sentence. I didn't even bother to read the rest of the article. I was expecting this to be based some some valid objective reasons why the app sucks, not personal preferences. I use Spotify, and have found the…

You expected a page entitled "iOS 13's Music App Sucks" to be objective , of all things?

Not completely objective, but to have at least well-reasoned arguments, yes.

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Post by barrowclift »

plorg wrote: post #239
barrowclift wrote: post #34

While I agree iOS 13’s Music.app is pretty shoddy in many respects, there’s plenty of alternatives other than Spotify that might better fit their requirements. (Marvis Pro, Soor, etc.) I consolidate the biggest players yearly in a review, which might be helpful for the author’s search: https://barrowclift.me/post/second-annual-ios-music-player-c...

While you're here, every time I try to load that page my browser (Firefox on Android) hangs with most of the page rendered, and then Android crashes. It's not my adblocker (uBO in default deny mode, still happens with it disabled), but I haven't yet nailed down what it is. Maybe some default flag I've switched, e.g. to disable notifications or block autoplay video?

Whoa, that's bad. I don't currently have an Android device to test with, but I will get an emulator set up this weekend to see if I can reproduce and fix whatever's causing this. Thanks so much for letting me know about this, I really appreciate it!

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Post by pwinnski »

sbarre wrote: post #253
pwinnski wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm 100% sure you're wrong about this. For example, Marvis Pro exists. Heck, multiple web interfaces to Apple Music exist!

Yes it was demonstrated that I was wrong, I tried to edit my comment but it was too late, so I added a reply to indicate it, and thanked the 4-5 people who came before you to indicate this as well. :-) my bad.

I missed that. Sorry for piling on.

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Post by kristofferR »

jvreeland wrote: post #175
kristofferR wrote: post #140

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Yeah, Overcast is extremely weirdly designed in some places - the "Unplayed" tab contains played content for example.

Yeah basically the same stuff i dislike about the 'Listen now' and other weird modes.

This made me look for an alternative, and I found Castro, which I love! The UI is miles better!

https://castro.fm/

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

derefr wrote: post #235
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #118

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Well, for one possible answer: I personally don't want "music that I have added to my library by ripping or buying digital files of" and "music that I have added to my library by clicking 'favorite' in a streaming music service" to be separate libraries. "Okay, I want to listen to a song or two from the most recent album by The Black Keys, so I'll go to this app, but now I'd like to listen to ELO's Greatest Hits, so…

That's nice if you actually subscribe to Apple Music. As it stands, searching your library in Music.app returns results from Apple Music , with ~3 extra taps required to see the results from your own library, and often the inability to even navigate to a result in your own library if it matches the name of a title that's been delicensed from Apple Music.

Did you try turning off Apple Music in Settings? I just did that, and all mention of Apple Music goes away from the Music app, including in the search results.

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Post by dangus »

poulsbohemian wrote: post #105
dangus wrote: post #18

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That doesn’t make sense, the cash back could just be cash. It doesn’t make those services magically free.

Except there's a cycle - you get 3% back on Apple purchases. Notice I said "free" with air quotes - sure, you are spending money, but you are also being rewarded for staying in the Apple walled garden. So back to my point - why pay $9-$15/mo for Spotify when if you play the game, Apple has a "good enough" product and is incentivizing you monetarily to the point that their services become "included" rather than a sepa…

That still doesn’t make sense. You could use the cash back on a Spotify subscription just the same.

The Apple Card’s credit card rewards aren’t even that good compared to what other large banks offer (e.g. the Citi Double Cash card).

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Post by thirdsun »

nikisweeting wrote: post #210
sjg007 wrote: post #182

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I just want the old app back.

Yeah I'd literally pay $20 to have the iOS 7 or 6 music app.

You are aware that there are several alternative music app replacements that focus on local libraries? Cs Music Player is probably the most popular one of them: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cs-music-player/id924491991
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