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Post by bildung »

throwaway100773 wrote: post #212
bildung wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time believing e.g. most european countries have less regulation in the medical sector than the US. Probably less corruption/"lobbying" (because corporate campaign distribitions are more strictly regulated in most other countries), but corruption quite different from regulation, even if both affect how law gets written.

Many times it’s hard to distinguish the difference between regulation and corruption. Sometimes they’re one disguised as the other. Not sure what method you have for distinguishing between the two, so please share!

I'd say they exist on different levels and shouldn't be conflated. Corruption is the undemocratic alternative to a democratic decision making process. Both affect regulation, e.g. law.

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Post by jpamata »

apta wrote: post #241

They should move away from using Python in a system like this. There's a non trivial amount of Python code (e.g. [0]) in the repo. The lack of type-safety is just the start of the issues with using it in a project like this. [0] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/tree/aa365e0d48ba29fd44...

Geo addressed that at the lex fridman podcast 5 months ago, briefly mentioning type checking as one of the reasons. I think he said they're moving to Go or C

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Post by wolkmo »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #16

Comma.ai represents a strange attitude towards life in which you try to turn hard, serious problems (like self-driving), into trivial problems (write some Python and run it on Android phones and plug it into your car!) and try get away with it. It only has a chance of working if you are cool enough in SV such as geohot. I interviewed there once and it was extremely off-putting how clear their demand for fast progress…

Compare OpenPilot to other solutions.

Tesla trying to kill someone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GnysB0rO3s

The super reliable "Level 3" Audi system not being able to go straight on a highway, the most simple problem there is in self-driving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsiUwq_M8lE&t=297

Several cars "pedestrian safety system" failing on detecting pedestrian (You had one job..) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y8JG7kepwc

Let's be honest, there is not a single driving assistant that isn't dangerous. Why care for "realtime" if your model tries to kill you once per minute? Realtime is one of the final touches you need to make your software perfect. That's just how the industry works, and if you want to keep up with them you have to go the same route, or do you know of any exception? Most manufacturers tell you that you should closely watch what your car is doing on autopilot, and they limit it's torque and acceleration, so the human driver is reliability, redundancy, testing and the realtime system.

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Post by rocker311 »

Well, I think Comma gives a tough competition to Tesla given the features which it offers when compared to AutoPilot of Tesla. There are lot of masses who still cannot afford a Tesla( and their $7K package for full self driving cars). Imagine all of (atleast 20 %) Comma AI and Openpilot supported cars actually using this hardware and software in the next 6 months which is way more than the number of Teslas in the market. Also, it avoids the necessity of owning a Tesla. Coming to safety, I believe Openpiot with Comma makes a driver a better and safe driver with driver being attentive. I wouldn't drive a Tesla without being attentive even it offers Level 4 autonomy (because we always need to have an eye on the road and pitch-in when needed as this involves people's lives and there is no single system in the market which is 100% perfect).

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Post by cma »

rsync wrote: post #237
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #16

Comma.ai represents a strange attitude towards life in which you try to turn hard, serious problems (like self-driving), into trivial problems (write some Python and run it on Android phones and plug it into your car!) and try get away with it. It only has a chance of working if you are cool enough in SV such as geohot. I interviewed there once and it was extremely off-putting how clear their demand for fast progress…

"And then we have comma, which controls your vehicle on a non-realtime system..." This can't be true ... ?

The safety critical stuff for disengagements and torque limiting etc. runs in real-time in C code on an STM32 micro.
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