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Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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For those new and old to Firefox, check out the new-ish privacy feature “multi-account containers” https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Thanks for recommending this! I knew about it, but quite a few of the responses have showed me new and clever ways to use it. I love the idea of using it during web development for logged in vs logged out state, for example.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Firefox is nice. But over time there are more and more things I need to configure to get a "good" browser experience. Things I do: - about:preferences#general > Startup > restore previous session - about:preferences#general > Tabs > uncheck Ctrl+Tab cycle ... - about:preferences#general > Downloads > always ask where to save - about:preferences#home > Firefox Home Content > disable all except Top Sites - about:prefer…

The one thing that really annoys me in all major browsers, is that you can't set a 'new tab page' without installing an extension. It's a nuts design.

Not sure exactly what you mean, but Firefox allows you to specify both new tab and new window behavior, even independently. Firefox Default, Custom page or just blank.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Firefox has bad performance for my use cases. It crashes around 50% of the time I open Gmail, and the other 50% of the time it crashes with any old tab. I know Gmail is bloated and less performant now but it's been my address for 15 years. Does Mozilla want me to deal with the constant crashes or abandon Firefox or abandon Gmail?

Interesting, it has to be something specific to your use case or hardware. I have Firefox open 24/7, 150+ tabs (Panorama tab manager), 4 Gmail account tabs (2 personal, 2 work) always pinned open, and FF just never crashes for me. Since Quantum was released it has just been stable.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Firefox is nice. But over time there are more and more things I need to configure to get a "good" browser experience. Things I do: - about:preferences#general > Startup > restore previous session - about:preferences#general > Tabs > uncheck Ctrl+Tab cycle ... - about:preferences#general > Downloads > always ask where to save - about:preferences#home > Firefox Home Content > disable all except Top Sites - about:prefer…

The one thing that really annoys me in all major browsers, is that you can't set a 'new tab page' without installing an extension. It's a nuts design.

I'm not too bothered by this, otherwise I would likely set it to HN and waste even more time than I already do.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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> - about:preferences#general > Downloads > always ask where to save I hate the default behaviour so much. What's wrong with asking me where to save the file? I almost certainly have a place in mind where the file should go.

I think it's easier to drag-and-drop from the Downloads folder to where I want to save it, than to dig through a Save dialog to find the folder I want to save something in. So it's less work whether or not you want to put your download somewhere long-term.

The download folder can still be the default, and all you'd have to do is to press "save" if you're okay with the default.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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I use Safari full-time and am pretty happy with it. Pinned tabs, the keyboard shortcuts, developer options, ghostery extension, I find everything pretty neat. Anyone else here feel the same?

I would use it since it's the native browser but last I checked it didn't have any proper ad blockers due to apple shenanigans. I would consider swapping back if I could use ublock origin.

I use Adguard with Safari 13, which has a bit of a clunky startup but doesn't seem to affect performance once everything is running & does a decent enough job of blocking trackers/ads.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Firefox is nice. But over time there are more and more things I need to configure to get a "good" browser experience. Things I do: - about:preferences#general > Startup > restore previous session - about:preferences#general > Tabs > uncheck Ctrl+Tab cycle ... - about:preferences#general > Downloads > always ask where to save - about:preferences#home > Firefox Home Content > disable all except Top Sites - about:prefer…

Problem is, all those are preference settings that change with each user's preferences, and at the end of the day they need to default to something, so it only makes sense that they default on what might be most useful for most users.

Just as a quick counterexample, in my case:

> about:preferences#general > Startup > restore previous session

Same.

> about:preferences#general > Tabs > uncheck Ctrl+Tab cycle

Never have used Ctrl+Tab so no point in disabling it. Never going to push those keys, so the default doesn't bother me at all.

> about:preferences#general > Downloads > always ask where to save

I do _not_ want having to indicate where to save. That's why I have a Downloads folder; everything downloaded must go to the Downloads folder, no questions asked. I'll delete or organize later.

> about:preferences#home > Firefox Home Content > disable all except Top Sites

Same for me.

> about:preferences#privacy > Permission > Notification Settings > Block new requests

Same for me.

> about:preferences#privacy > Firefox Data Collection and Use > disable

I don't really mind. Depending on the mood, it will be disabled or left enabled upon a new installation. If it helps them develop Firefox, I'm willing to let Mozilla snoop a bit.

> Set in about:config extensions.pocket.enabled to false

Never used Pocket. Could disable it, but I just hide the icon. Lately I've been thinking that maybe I'm missing on some nice feature that the browser is offering me and I'm ignoring...

> Install the addons: uBlock Origin, Gesturefy, Firefox Multi-Account Containers

Those are your choice of extensions. Although I coincide with uBlock and the Multi-Account ones. The later, though, is just in a very preliminary development state; it needs much more work IMHO to be even a candidate for integration into the default installation. Right now, it is too minimal (missing convenience features such as exporting the settings and sync with the official Mozilla service)

> I remove the home button

I want my Home button. I have to explicitly enable it in Chrome, so I could complain about the same thing you do.

> I remove the sidebar button

I want my sidebar easily accessible, frequently swapping between "Tabs" and "Bookmark Search Plus 2". My sidebar is 99% time open.

> I reject every Firefox pop-up that wants me to enable Sync or whatever

I want my Mozilla account set up for synchronization of everything it allows (except history). It's a fundamental part of my workflow and it's the first thing I enable after a clean installation.

In summary, your preferences are just as valid as mine and any other person's, so I'd understand that they will never find a perfect set of defaults that would satisfy everybody.

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Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Or maybe don't... I relied too much on it, and lost quite some data. Too bad it had no sync capabilities, or even basic import/export for backing up.

Can you explain? It’s a puzzling comment about containers

My "data loss" happened when Firefox updated itself automatically, said add-on was not compatible with latest Firefox and was disabled. After some time it became compatible again and was reenabled. All cookies in "containers" were lost.

Not sure anything else was lost though.

Anyway, password manager is still on a global (not per container/account), so it's easy to make mistakes and log in with "credentials A" in "container B". Or am I missing something?

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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To me Sync and Pocket are extra features (and some others), that should be enabled by user action. Why doesn't Firefox come with a Mozilla Tools section in Settings which allows easily to enable those services + a button to that settings page on the (bottom/top right) new tab page. This way it would be reachable, but at same time, not so intrusive as it is right now. I would even go as fare and say that the dev-tools…

I believe pocket and especially sync do nothing if you don't use them. This is in absolute contrast with Chrome that ties your whole navigator to your google account if you ever log on gmail...

Pocket link recommendations appear on the new tab page on new installs. You can turn them off, but they are there by default. Additionally the Pocket button persists in the address bar, but is also removable. It's indeed minuscule in comparison with what Chrome does.
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