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Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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> By what authority, or on what pretext, Assange is being tranquilised, and kept isolated, remains unknown I'm going to go out on a limb and say "ill health".

Which health conditions are improved by solitary confinement?

He was moved to a medical ward. He's not in solitary confinement.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/05/30/jasa-m30.html

Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly did you come to the conclusion that his trial was fair? The only coverage I've seen of the trial, which has been remarkably quiet, alleges extreme US interference: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-c... Jullian's father is going around the world telling people how brutally corrupt this all is, and how he fears for his son's life. The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture agrees with hi…

It was an open and shut case. He was bailed to appear in court. He didn’t appear in court but hid for several years out of the court’s jurisdiction.

It was for very clear reasons that he avoided bail; because he didn’t want to get extradited - which all along the US and UK called a conspiracy theory, and which then happened the minute a more bribable Ecuadorian government got in.

What’s your opinion on the Spanish company putting streaming cameras in the women’s bathroom to spy on his lawyers conversations? Is that supposed to have no connection to this “open and shut” case?

Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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Wikileaks has a faultless record. They’ve never had to retract a publication. Assange, like him not not, was a reporter, who reported uncomfortable facts about the military and our ruling class. He is being punished, tortured really for this “crime”. He has been endlessly and baselessly slandered. All that alleged bad behaviour while he was imprisoned in the embassy ... funny how there’s been no footage of it, despit…

It is possible to build a false narrative with nothing but true information. Say I put up a website that every day posted a story about a Jewish person who had been convicted of a financial crime. Say I promoted this site and built up a fan base. If every story was 100% true, nothing but real convictions. Would you say this is an honest, faultless website?

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Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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Wikileaks has a faultless record. They’ve never had to retract a publication. Assange, like him not not, was a reporter, who reported uncomfortable facts about the military and our ruling class. He is being punished, tortured really for this “crime”. He has been endlessly and baselessly slandered. All that alleged bad behaviour while he was imprisoned in the embassy ... funny how there’s been no footage of it, despit…

>They’ve never had to retract a publication.

Refusing to ever retract anything either means they're literally perfect. Fuck the New York Times, Guardian, BBC, Al Jareeza and every other news organisation that has ever existed.

Or they refuse to retract ever, despite sometimes making mistakes.

Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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Wikileaks has a faultless record. They’ve never had to retract a publication. Assange, like him not not, was a reporter, who reported uncomfortable facts about the military and our ruling class. He is being punished, tortured really for this “crime”. He has been endlessly and baselessly slandered. All that alleged bad behaviour while he was imprisoned in the embassy ... funny how there’s been no footage of it, despit…

>They’ve never had to retract a publication. Refusing to ever retract anything either means they're literally perfect. Fuck the New York Times, Guardian, BBC, Al Jareeza and every other news organisation that has ever existed. Or they refuse to retract ever, despite sometimes making mistakes.

Can you point to something non-factual that Wikileaks has published that you think should have been retracted?

Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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Wikileaks has a faultless record. They’ve never had to retract a publication. Assange, like him not not, was a reporter, who reported uncomfortable facts about the military and our ruling class. He is being punished, tortured really for this “crime”. He has been endlessly and baselessly slandered. All that alleged bad behaviour while he was imprisoned in the embassy ... funny how there’s been no footage of it, despit…

It is possible to build a false narrative with nothing but true information. Say I put up a website that every day posted a story about a Jewish person who had been convicted of a financial crime. Say I promoted this site and built up a fan base. If every story was 100% true, nothing but real convictions. Would you say this is an honest, faultless website?

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Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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I find it kind of weird how most of the discussion is about whether assange was good/bad/a "russian spy" etc - all of these have been discussed to death already. Shouldn't we be more concerned about the inhumane treatment of assange in jail regardless if you agree or disagree with what he published? My 2c

Probably because Belmarsh is a pretty average British prison, it's slightly better than US prisons, slightly worse than some European prisons. Claims of being sedated come 3rd hand from an unreliable source - and are clearly untrue.

Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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Due process will strangely, coincidentally, be EXTREMELY SLOW. ... kind of like Guantanamo.

Well, yes, if you flee to an embassy during your very long appeal process against extradition, then that will tend to slow things down.

Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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Wikileaks has a faultless record. They’ve never had to retract a publication. Assange, like him not not, was a reporter, who reported uncomfortable facts about the military and our ruling class. He is being punished, tortured really for this “crime”. He has been endlessly and baselessly slandered. All that alleged bad behaviour while he was imprisoned in the embassy ... funny how there’s been no footage of it, despit…

According to you then, RT also has a “faultless record”...

Re: Julian Assange “slowly dying” and “often sedated” in Belmarsh prison

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post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Declaring who is and is not a valid journalist is not a path we, or any society, should go down.

Declaring who is and is not a valid journalist is essential to democracy. The failure to distinguish journalism from propaganda is in no small measure responsible for the mess we're currently in.

If we allow a precedent like that it will some day inevitably be turned on somebody you think speaks objective truth. The past few years have shown me there is no such thing.
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