Wisely so: eventually two autocrats are going to pressure him to remove the other for policy violations. Better to decentralize than collect Interpol warrants.
Twitter funding a team to develop an open standard for social media
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Re: Twitter funding a team to develop an open standard for social media
#252They should at the very least evaluate ActivityPub. It's a W3C standard that reached "Recommended" status almost two years ago, is flexible enough for future use-cases, and already has multiple implementations like Mastodon. In fact, any app can be made to act as a source, sink or both of ActivityPub events. I recently added ActivityPub support to learnawesome.org so that reviews can be consumed in any ActivityPub cl…
Can someone explain in 3 short phrases or less how ActivityPub or another standard actually solves the problems that centralized social media creates?
Choice of your instance, moderators, and client. It enables smaller, self-policing communities to run a compatible instance with minimal costs.
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But Matrix is mostly built around chat rooms, not feeds like Twitter. I would assume any new system would take some parts of Matrix and some parts of ActivityPub but not the entire thing.
We built Matrix to synchronise any kind of comms data - we just call the primitive a “room” rather than (say) a “pubsub topic” or whatever more general term. You can absolutely build microblogging on top of Matrix; there are already a few toy examples already.
I'm considering launching a couple matrix instances this month,
any chance there are ways for me to dub a few users as moderators and give them the ability to silence / kick / ban users by ip, hostname, ip subnets and cidr?
I'll be looking into whatever bridge things there are for combining matrix with some microblogging, that would be a really perfect fit for 2 of the projects I've had on the idea shelf this year.
If it can connect with wordpress / buddypress for logging / blogging things from chat by user, that could prove interesting for some uses indeed. Of course if it connect to mastadon or anything else similar that could work too.
It's been a while since I've checked in on Matrix and what's new. I'd love to find someone who knows the code and could help me mod it a couple hours a month for a reasonable fee.
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I personally get really strong uncanny valley vibes from that thing. I might dig a cartoon version of it, but that banner image seriously creeps me out.
I don't even think it is a real animal, it looks like a capuchin monkey or something. Anyone know what species it is?
it's an art doll (like a puppet)
Re: Twitter funding a team to develop an open standard for social media
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(Breaking out this sentence into blocks because it's very large.) The specification as-written is really, really bad (though I don't think this is a fault of the protocol), Synapse is kind of...and work on Dendrite seems to have mostly stalled, the billion people signed up on matrix.org has allowed for a sort of de facto centralization (not a huge problem, though in practice it sort of is, given how much the server b…
Others have better responses to the rest of these points; many of them are still significant issues though a lot has progressed over the last couple years. I can preempt one though by saying alternatives to Synapse like https://github.com/matrix-construct/construct are probably something more aligned with your interests. (disclosure: I started the project with kaniini). After more than two years in and around this sp…
I mean, I totally agree.
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Sure, Mastodon doesn't implement the full ActivityPub spec [0]. They're still very much behind the effort though, it seems [1] (or at least they were in 2018). Not only this, but they go against it in multiple places. How they've implemented 'summary' and the bizarre things they've done to create compatibility with Misskey (but not in an actually-compatible way, Misskey's had to patch their own solution every time) h…
> Secure Scuttlebutt (not a fan, but it's much better than AP) If you have any specific feedback about which improvements are most important to you, I'd love to hear it. It's hard to see things with fresh eyes after you've been working on them for a bit.
A while back, I came across this message:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16880060
Is this accurate currently? Its a turn off.
Re: Twitter funding a team to develop an open standard for social media
#258ActivityPub? Who cares about what JSON schema gets adopted? Much more interesting is the why, not the how. #1 reason to decentralize: "Centralized enforcement of global policy to address abuse and misleading information is unlikely to scale over the long-term without placing far too much burden on people." #2 reason: "The value of social media is shifting away from content hosting and removal, and towards recommendat…
> "social media incentives frequently lead to attention being focused on content and conversation that sparks controversy and outrage, rather than conversation which informs and promotes health." This seems to run anathema to the concept of social media platforms being run by for-profit companies. Monetization absolutely mandates the need for controversy and outrage, as opposed to social welfare.
That’s the thing, I’m not really sure it does. Never-ending social media political flamewars increase engagement for a few people but drive others away.
Personally I deleted my twitter account and barely use Facebook any more for this reason. If there was a fun happy version of these networks that showed me stuff I wanted to see rather than stuff that annoys me, I’d use it.
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It's stupid to be 100% against censorship. Some things should be censored. Like child abuse imagery, for example. The questions are where do you draw the line, and who gets to decide where the line is drawn?
This seems more like an appeal to emotion to justify the creation of censorship infrastructure than an actual solution to a problem. I haven't heard of unsolicited CP being a common spam issue. And those who exchange CP intentionally can and do use encryption which makes such filters pointless.
Then you are not familiar with the Fediverse's patterns of establishing various levels of tolerance on different networks of instances for loli content (blah blah it's fiction blah blah) because otherwise it federates onto people's timelines and they're revolted. CWs do a lot to soften this.
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google is in the email business tons of businesses send promotional emails , even though they know the protocol is also used for sending porjn
And the only reason businesses still use email is Google's development of advanced and almost effective content moderation.
you mean spam filtering, which is different from moderation. google won't censor "hateful emails"