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The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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The web 'began dying'? What does that mean, Boomer?

If you were to ask when it began being corrupted that would be more to the point. How are children corrupted? What is the cure? After PCs came along it was all fun and games until people noticed there was gold involved. Stir in some greed and ego. Old forumula.

Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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It has never been more easy to self publish ... via Twitter and Instagram. But the real problem is that you only have 1 hour of free time, spread out in five minute intervals during the day. Being an adult sux.

This is NOT self-publishing.

When making home made food, do I also need go grow the wheat myself? eg. do I need to run the server at my house, or can I use a service? Where do you draw the line?

Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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>The Web’s diversity has granted space for multiple businesses to innovate and thrive, independent hobbyist communities to grow, and personal sites to be hosted on whatever physical servers can host them. A few months ago I was feeling the same way, especially about personal websites. I tried to find StumbleUpon as that seemed like a good alternative to see random unique websites. However, I was saddened to see it ha…

First result was a coolie cutter website selling seo services The creative web is truly dying

Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

#255

>The Web’s diversity has granted space for multiple businesses to innovate and thrive, independent hobbyist communities to grow, and personal sites to be hosted on whatever physical servers can host them. A few months ago I was feeling the same way, especially about personal websites. I tried to find StumbleUpon as that seemed like a good alternative to see random unique websites. However, I was saddened to see it ha…

First result was a coolie cutter website selling seo services The creative web is truly dying

I don't see anything wrong with trying to sell services. I wouldn't want a generic, fraudulent, big business, or cookie cutter site in there though.

If you recall what website it was (or check the history after reloading stumblingon) and let me know the URL I can reconsider whether or not it belongs.

Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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> financial gain > sharing of information ... These features aren't really extricable from each other in any society where money exists

Wikipedia?

I mean in general, not for any specific agent involved in the sharing of the information. But where information is flowing, someone is turning it into profit.

I am 100% certain that people have made significant revenue facilitated by their ability to look things up quickly and efficiently on Wikipedia. I know it has certainly helped me do my job. The fact that that revenue hasn't flowed directly to Jimmy Wales's institution is because nothing about commerce guarantees that everyone involved gets a cut of the money flowing.

Imagine how much money they would make if they started running ads though.

Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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> If you walk into a shop, you have an expectation to be observed (both to check you're not shoplifting, and also to see how customers behave). They don't tell you that you'll be observed, it's just one of those things you expect when you walk into someone's shop. The problem is that this is a poor analogy to computer networking. I send you an HTTP request; you send me an HTTP response. I'm not visiting your shop; we…

Sorry, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Visiting amazon.com is exactly like walking into a shop, and nothing like "sending messages to a server". I totally understand that that's what's happening behind the scenes, but that's like saying "I vibrated the air in specific harmonics" rather than "I said yes".

Taking your walking into a store analogy, what you are actually doing is taking an xray of every potential customer, going through their pockets, recording every receipt from their wallet and then uniquely tagging them with a barcode all in the very moment that they touch the door handle to enter. And that's assuming you are not trying to be evil.

Could you please disclose the name of your company so I can be sure to avoid it like the plague?

Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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What I do when am not on your site is my business and not any of your business.

I totally agree. And we're totally uninterested in what you do off our site. I'm purely talking about tracking your behaviour on our site. We want to know if you spent 20 mins reading our "about" page and then looked at our pricing page, and then vanished. In terms of the rest... country is probably interesting, language preference is interesting (when do we need to translate from English because we have enough custo…

>We want to know if you spent 20 mins reading our "about" page and then looked at our pricing page, and then vanished.

I don't want you to know this sort of information. It's too invasive.

Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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What I do when am not on your site is my business and not any of your business.

I totally agree. And we're totally uninterested in what you do off our site. I'm purely talking about tracking your behaviour on our site. We want to know if you spent 20 mins reading our "about" page and then looked at our pricing page, and then vanished. In terms of the rest... country is probably interesting, language preference is interesting (when do we need to translate from English because we have enough custo…

Then suppose it would be best to avoid the tools and modalities currently being exploited by those who are so keenly interested in what everyone does all the time. Because who has time to figure out the few non malignant players in this vast space of parasites?

Re: The Web Began Dying in 2014 (2017)

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> Corporations aren't good or evil. They are powerful That meant to imply that google is neutral? The strong nuclear force is powerful that doesn’t mean anything on its own. It can be harvested for good electricity or bad bombs. Of course the consensus on this is almost universal, the consensus on google is much more ambivalent. Corporations may well be good or evil

Yes, Google is not neutral, it definitely have a clear, intentional agenda. But it's non-moral (not imoral, or evil) as are all corporations. It just uses it's power as a way to complete it's objectives. This is way different from being neutral.

when ppl say google is evil they mean its leadership
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