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Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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why doesn't australia protect its citizens? Apparently, "The Commonwealth will not extradite or deport a prisoner to another jurisdiction if they might face the death penalty"

Could you expand? The UK is in the Commonwealth and has the same stricture. None of the extradition charges carry the death penalty. So how is this relevant?

i got that from wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Australi...

> None of the extradition charges carry the death penalty.

I 'm not sure about that, the UN seems to be concerned:

https://www.ft.com/content/c3d35d24-82ec-11e9-b592-5fe435b57...

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Among other things, one would certainly have to exclude any country which engages in the mass collection and permanent storage of all of its citizens' communications.

What if the population was ok with that / didn't care?

They would be wrong.

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He is currently held in solitary confinement, with 1 hour outside his cell per day. That is torture.

I don't think so. I spend less than an hour outside each day and I don't find my life to be torturous.

But you have a choice to spend less than an hour outside.

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post #181

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He is currently held in solitary confinement, with 1 hour outside his cell per day. That is torture.

I don't think so. I spend less than an hour outside each day and I don't find my life to be torturous.

Are you spending the other 23 hours sleeping or standing? Because that’s what solitary confinement is. You get to do nothing but sleep, walk around, or use the toilet.

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Worth mentioning that Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, visited Assange and described his treatment as psychological torture: > “It was obvious that Mr. Assange’s health has been seriously affected by the extremely hostile and arbitrary environment he has been exposed to for many years,” the expert said. “Most importantly, in addition to physical ailments, Mr. Assange showed all symptoms typical for…

I would believe he's exhibiting symptoms correlated with torture victims, but most torture victims don't choose to stay in the torture chamber voluntarily. Assange sought and was granted asylum and could have ended the torturous circumstances at any time by rendering himself to UK custody.

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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post #232

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Among other things, one would certainly have to exclude any country which engages in the mass collection and permanent storage of all of its citizens' communications.

What if the population was ok with that / didn't care?

The whole population?

Freedom is freedom for minority rights and opinions to not be quashed by the majority. Thus the term "the tyranny of the majority"

A majority can "not care" about systematic racial injustice and other inequities. The consent of the majority doesn't make the system "free".

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Title should really be 'US takes hand out of Swedish puppet now that its free to extradite Assange' The take away here is stay anonymous when whistle blowing or handling leaks. Don't talk to anyone, don't say anything just take a USB stick to an Internet cafe while disguised and host a torrent. Then email the press the magnet link using a throw away email service.

It's possible to be both unfairly targeted by a superpower and commit sexual assault, one doesn't cancel out the other. I'm not saying he did, I don't know how any of us could know. You seem quite confident he didn't though, I'm curious what you base that on.

People should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. That isn't just a legal principle - it's a philosophical principle.

If you throw that away and want to talk about probabilities - that's ok too - but then you need to add the probability that the global super power put pressure on people to drum up baloney charges.

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