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Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by nitemice »

limomium wrote: post #161
georgeecollins wrote: post #84

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I don't understand how anyone could think dual screen is a gimmick that had a DS. There were a lot of games that put those two screens to good use. I am serious.

Consider this: To gain any information from a screen, you must actually look at it. You can only look at one screen at a time. The entire functionality of a second screen can be replaced with a single button: While that button is pressed, the screen shows whatever else it needs to show. It is true that pressing a button is ever so slightly slower than moving your eyes. But considering all the benefits from saving a w…

In the case of the DS at least, the big differentiator is that the second screen is touch, and is positioned in a more touch-friendly place.

If your one-and-only screen is touch, you have to lift your arms up away from your buttons to press anything. No matter how much of an impost it is to have to look down a little, I'd say it's still less than having to lift your hand away from the buttons into your eyeline.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by Corrado »

kyoji wrote: post #57
djsumdog wrote: post #46

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Actually, it reminds me of that pre-iPad Microsoft project that they killed off to focus on Windows 8. It was almost production ready too; had dual screens and there was a neat video of how the stylus interacted with it. I can't remember what it was called though and can't seem to find it searching DDG/Google.

The Microsoft Courier! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Courier

Video of it in action - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by lysp »

pitaj wrote: post #144
augustl wrote: post #141

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I've never been more happy with a desktop environment than when I used i3. The sloppy window management in macOS combined with the scarce selection of laptops (of which none are really good in my opinion) has led me to try win10 as my development environment. i3-like on Windows would have been great!

You may want to check out FancyZones https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/blob/master/src/modul...

DisplayFusion is one I've used for years for splitting screens into virtual displays. Plus altering what elements show on the taskbar for those screens.

(Commercial product).

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by ToFab123 »

The Duo is the Android phone.

I am one of these weirdos that has been waiting patiently for many years for Microsoft to release a new phone and would have been first in line to buy one, until I received this news.

There is just no way I am going to buy a Android that broadcast everything back to Google. Microsoft have completely missed the ball on this one. At least towards the Microsoft users that are not comfortable with sending everything towards Google.

Windows 10X on the other hand sounds like an amazing OS. I would have loved to see that on the phone (with android app support to get the app ecosystem going), instead we get a two screen device with a huge bezel in the middle so the screens cannot appear as 1 screen.

I am sorry Microsoft, but my money stays in my pocket.

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Post by PostOnce »

ToFab123 wrote: post #254

The Duo is the Android phone. I am one of these weirdos that has been waiting patiently for many years for Microsoft to release a new phone and would have been first in line to buy one, until I received this news. There is just no way I am going to buy a Android that broadcast everything back to Google. Microsoft have completely missed the ball on this one. At least towards the Microsoft users that are not comfortabl…

You're happier broadcasting everything back to Microsoft? What's the difference?

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by ToFab123 »

PostOnce wrote: post #256
ToFab123 wrote: post #254

The Duo is the Android phone. I am one of these weirdos that has been waiting patiently for many years for Microsoft to release a new phone and would have been first in line to buy one, until I received this news. There is just no way I am going to buy a Android that broadcast everything back to Google. Microsoft have completely missed the ball on this one. At least towards the Microsoft users that are not comfortabl…

You're happier broadcasting everything back to Microsoft? What's the difference?

Yes, I have no issues with transmitting my digital life back to Microsoft. I have done so since I got my first Hotmail count 20+ ago. Since then, my digital life has in one form or another been connected with Microsoft Services.

I have never felt Microsoft has abused this trust I have given them. I have never thought that they have used my information for purposes I am not comfortable with.

I have this thing against advertisement agencies. I don't trust them. I felt the same even before Google was there even before my life became digital. It is not something new that I try to limit the information I give to advertisement agencies.

Edit: spelling

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by PostOnce »

ToFab123 wrote: post #257
PostOnce wrote: post #256

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You're happier broadcasting everything back to Microsoft? What's the difference?

Yes, I have no issues with transmitting my digital life back to Microsoft. I have done so since I got my first Hotmail count 20+ ago. Since then, my digital life has in one form or another been connected with Microsoft Services. I have never felt Microsoft has abused this trust I have given them. I have never thought that they have used my information for purposes I am not comfortable with. I have this thing against…

Microsoft sells ads, too. They're integrating them into Windows. Microsoft sells everything that Google sells and more.

If Microsoft could have grown Bing as big as Google by doing everything Google did that you distrust, they absolutely would have done so. They would have done it with Windows Phone, too. And they still will, if they can, eventually.

I'm not here to start an argument, just to suggest you re-examine your loyalties if you think Microsoft isn't going to screw you if it makes them $5.

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Post by ndespres »

naikrovek wrote: post #189
ndespres wrote: post #43

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These guys just can not figure out a branding/marketing scheme that won't require overexplaining each time to figure out, and confusion by the consumer. What is a "Surface" if it's really 2 different things, with very similar names, that do completely different things and run incompatible operating systems?

"Surface" is a product line... How is that hard to understand? Like Lenovo Thinkpad, Jeep Wrangler, Samsung Galaxy, or whatever else you want to cite as an example.

How about if there was a Jeep Wrangler that's actually a motorcycle but still referred to as a Wrangler, and the 4-wheeled Jeep Wrangler gets rebadged as the WranglerQuadro but only for 2 years, then they have a ATV just called "Quadro by Jeep" (not to be confused with the Jeep 4Quadro California Emissions Comploant Edition) that's more like a Microsoft branding exercise.
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