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Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by mrweasel »

mantoto wrote: post #223
Uehreka wrote: post #205

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Nvidia really has the GPU market under their thumb. It would be one thing if their pitch was "We're not as good as AMD for games, but we've got CUDA for professionals and researchers!". At least that way there could be some sort of segmentation and I could tell people shopping for GPUs to "get the right one for what you want to do!" But that's not the world we live in. Nvidia's pitch is "We make the only hardware tha…

Nvidia is still better for games then AMD. Haven't seen the GPU which beats them.

Isn’t that only if you ignore price? If you only have a limited budget, then AMD will get you better performance. For absolute maximum performance at any cost AMD has nothing that can beat Nvidia though.

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Post by chrisseaton »

m0zg wrote: post #134
Marsymars wrote: post #130

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Presumably that's with the dual-GPU, 28-core processor model under full load (and the MPX module drawing its full 500W, among other peripherals). An office with this kind of workload is going to require robust wiring regardless of which particular workstations are installed.

And robust air conditioning, too. Source: worked in an office full of dual-GPU deep learning workstations. We had to bring in those gigantic rental portable conditioners in the summer, and re-do pretty much all of the existing wiring in the office, because electricians who installed the first iteration could not conceive of having two dozen ~900W workstations cranking away 24x7x365 in a single open office plan.

Why do you have the GPUs inside the office with the people rather than in a server room under temperature control?

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by alluro2 »

bgentry wrote: post #236
maaaats wrote: post #222

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I got a Lenovo laptop with roughly the same specs, though.

Your Lenovo laptop has an 8 core 3.2GHz Xeon with 4.2GHz Turbo Boost, 19MB Cache, 64GB DDR4, silent cooling even under heavy load (which it can sustain), and an SSD that does 1700MB/s with full disk encryption?

Actually, P53 and P73 can be specced with all of those - and more. Up to 128GB RAM, Quadro graphics, 3 drive slots/bays (2 NvME, 1 2.5")...And the chassis is not compromised for thinness, so cooling is adequate.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by _ph_ »

sudhirj wrote: post #207
Hamuko wrote: post #201

The starting 256 GB SSD sticks out like a sore thumb on a machine as expensive as this. The barebones Mac Mini comes with 128 GB and 6-core Mini with 256 GB. And upgrading it is gonna cost an arm and a leg.

Depends entirely on workflow. A lot of shops will have all of their stuff on a 10G NAS share, so you’re actually forbidden from copying to and from your computer because it’s just stupid and sometimes slower to do so.

Still, it isn't as if 1T of SSD is expensive. So if they set the entry price to 6k, 1T of SSD would be an appropriate minimum.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by alluro2 »

alluro2 wrote: post #253
bgentry wrote: post #236

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Your Lenovo laptop has an 8 core 3.2GHz Xeon with 4.2GHz Turbo Boost, 19MB Cache, 64GB DDR4, silent cooling even under heavy load (which it can sustain), and an SSD that does 1700MB/s with full disk encryption?

Actually, P53 and P73 can be specced with all of those - and more. Up to 128GB RAM, Quadro graphics, 3 drive slots/bays (2 NvME, 1 2.5")...And the chassis is not compromised for thinness, so cooling is adequate.

Forgot to add - and you get a decent display, and it's portable, and it's still cheaper than MP.

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

josho wrote: post #14
baroffoos wrote: post #7

The only shocking things here are the lack of ports. Only 2 usb A and 2 usb c ports. Its basically required to use a usb hub on this device since once you plug in a proper mouse and keyboard you only have the usb c ports left

The monitor that you’ll use with this machine is likely to have a built in USB hub (see Apple’s new display or the LG display they were previously selling).

They still sell the LG display, in fact a new version was released about a month ago.

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Post by kbumsik »

stephenr wrote: post #231
kbumsik wrote: post #110

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I don't have an HEDT but an outdated Haswell i5 laptop (not an Ultra Low Voltage model at least, so it's quite fast). Last year I spotted a bug in Firefox and I though it was time to put a line in the contribution section in my resume. The contribution experience was a nightmare because a full build of Firefox took 3 hrs and running the entire testing framework took 4 hrs, though it turned out that I needed to run on…

3 HOURS? Does that say more about your workstation or the project? I've recently built php + most of the bundled extensions, in a VM (on a 2018 Mac mini) and it's only a couple of minutes at most to build.

Hey it's Firefox, one of the biggest C++ project you can build for now.

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

lliamander wrote: post #49

Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

Does wanting to count? I don't have a need right now, but some years ago I was doing iOS development; compile times started to get to a point where a more powerful system would've come in handy.

Mind you, my workflow could probably do with adjusting as well, I tended to work like I do with webapps and just continually rebuild/restart and review my changes on the device itself (or an emulator).

Part of me also wishes we had a big setup with multiple docker images running in parallel but ATM we have the luxury of working on 'just' a website (react, some lambdas, back-end are all third party services, we connect to a staging environment during development) so it's not too bad.

But I'd still like a permanent machine, there's something about (and this is me idealizing) having a fixed workspace you don't have to pack up every day. I mean sure disconnecting a laptop and yeeting it into a backpack isn't that much effort but it's the little things.

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Post by pjmlp »

NullPrefix wrote: post #192
lostlogin wrote: post #129

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It presumably is in some areas. In New Zealand we have The Consumer Guarantees Act. Things are expected to have a reasonable life span. What this means is not specified but is generally accepted to be relative to the price paid (eg if it’s expensive, it should last). It’s a fantastic piece of legislation. I’ve had a 2.5 year old iPhone covered for example.

>relative to the price paid TV set you get on Black Friday works until X-mas. It was a bargain, what did you expect? That discount you got on your car? You think it was because of your outstanding negotiation skills? Think again, the seller swapped a cheaper bifurcator, meaning your mileage will suffer. But is it wrong? You got a discount. If you sell it, if needs to be good. If it is not good, you cannot sell it. Th…

In most European countries it doesn't matter if it was a bargain or not, warranty law is the same for everyone.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by _ph_ »

initself wrote: post #40

Looks like a company finally listened.

Very little. Yes, they finally made a Mac Pro that is extensible and up to date. Basically everything the 2008 Mac Pro already was. On the downside, they doubled its price so for the non-Hollywood customer, there still isn't a desktop machine. Even 3k is much for a deskop machine, but I had set some money aside to get a Mac Pro, if it had started around its predecessor price. There was even a time in the past, when a Mac Pro would start below 2k and consequently was very popular.
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