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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by [deleted] »

tw04 wrote: post #242
leesec wrote: post #214

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Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Right, because those vendors were smart enough to add support for Android auto and carplay and leave it to Google and apple. I have a model y on order, but if they can't figure out infotainment soon I'll likely cancel it. I spend way too much time driving to deal with garbage infotainment.

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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by leesec »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #243
leesec wrote: post #236

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Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. it's fundamentally changed how I view driving. Stop and Go traffic no longer makes me mad. Road trips no longer exhaust me. There's probably some issues but none that I care about. It feels like driving the future. It's an absolute joy to drive. No gas stations is pretty nice too.

I'm driving a Toyota Corolla with lane assist which does 95% of what Tesla "Self Driving" does. It accelerates and brakes for me in traffic, and correct courses to stay in my lane. This is a 18k$ car and I would not accept trading Bluetooth issues with fancy parking summon features.

That's cool man. I hope you enjoy your Toyota Corolla and I hope one day you can be happy for people who also enjoy their cars.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by bobsil1 »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #243
leesec wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. it's fundamentally changed how I view driving. Stop and Go traffic no longer makes me mad. Road trips no longer exhaust me. There's probably some issues but none that I care about. It feels like driving the future. It's an absolute joy to drive. No gas stations is pretty nice too.

I'm driving a Toyota Corolla with lane assist which does 95% of what Tesla "Self Driving" does. It accelerates and brakes for me in traffic, and correct courses to stay in my lane. This is a 18k$ car and I would not accept trading Bluetooth issues with fancy parking summon features.

Does it steer and lane center in general, besides when you drift out of lane?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by CalChris »

Shivetya wrote: post #199
tidepod12 wrote: post #109

Bit of a bad look that the video clip showing Smart Summon shows the Tesla driving the wrong direction down a one-way lane... This might be a situation where Tesla Smart Summon works only when Tesla's are still rare. In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

Owner of a 2015 AP1 Tesla Model S.

> My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign

My Model S can and it has AP1. It's very good at this. Has it ever made a mistake. Not that I'm aware and I've checked a lot. I'll see a speed limit sign and as I pass it, the speed limit sign on the drivers console will update.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by bobsil1 »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #225
leesec wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

Teslas are the first software-centric EV, with the most advanced autopilot. No one is even really trying.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by bobsil1 »

fortran77 wrote: post #241
rainyMammoth wrote: post #225

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Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

Especially the "3" owners. There are so many cut-corners on the "3" yet the owners of this budget car will explain away it all.

The powertrain is more powerful and more efficient than any other in its class. A lot of people don't care about paint or trivial fit 'n finish stuff.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by bobsil1 »

skywhopper wrote: post #231
Ambroos wrote: post #208

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Well, I would hope the engineers working on Netflix and Caraoke aren't the ones who are working on self-driving features. They seem like different enough things that they could be worked on simultaneously. Full self-driving is a long time away anyway, and while we wait for that, features like this help cope with not having full self-driving and differentiating the car in the market.

But they are spending money and time on the engineers who are adding those features to the car, and on testing and integrating those with the rest of the software. Is that the best way to be spending their money?

Since it opens up a whole new differentiation front, they'd be remiss not to. No one else has broad apps or consistent OTA updates.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by coder543 »

tidepod12 wrote: post #109

Bit of a bad look that the video clip showing Smart Summon shows the Tesla driving the wrong direction down a one-way lane... This might be a situation where Tesla Smart Summon works only when Tesla's are still rare. In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

Look carefully, it isn't going the wrong way: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kennedy+Park+Pl,+Californi...

It's just a really bad parking lot design.

Regardless, Smart Summon doesn't currently care about things like directionality in a parking lot. This version doesn't try to do anything fancy like reading markings on the pavement.

The app will show you on a satellite map the route that the car is planning to go, assuming this release follows what was shown in the early access releases.

As the person supervising its behavior, it's currently solely your responsibility to make sure that the car doesn't cause problems for other people. The car will do its best to avoid hitting anyone or anything while still making it to your location, but you're still the one in charge.

Smart summon currently works via a dead man's switch. You have to hold down a button the entire time, and if you let go of the button for any reason, the car immediately stops.

The long-term goal is that supervision won't always be necessary, of course, but this feature is available now -- with supervision. If you see an opportunity to use it, it's there. It will get better. I've personally watched Autopilot grow up from something barely usable as a driver assistance technology to something that works extremely well for every day usage.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by xvector »

CalChris wrote: post #254
Shivetya wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

Owner of a 2015 AP1 Tesla Model S. > My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign My Model S can and it has AP1. It's very good at this. Has it ever made a mistake. Not that I'm aware and I've checked a lot. I'll see a speed limit sign and as I pass it, the speed limit sign on the drivers console will update.

AP is not capable of identifying speed limit signs. At least, modern AP cannot. To identify speed limits, Tesla AP pulls map information, which is often inaccurate outside cities.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by bobsil1 »

xedeon wrote: post #83
mdtusz wrote: post #79

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You have to acknowledge that there's some selection bias in a sampling from a forum for a particular car brand though.

Anecdotes from people who voted with their money > random opinions on the internet.

It's the usual effect: you mostly get 5 stars and 1 stars. Broad middle not motivated to post.
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