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Re: The We Company S-1

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Thats because Amazon was only unprofitable due to Capex and R&D. Their operating margin is fantastic, it was this promise that enticed investors! WeWork on the other hand is very ugly.

This is what seems to not be understood by a lot of investors and people commenting on investments. Amazon could have turned a profit years earlier if they wanted to. Instead it made more sense to continue spending all of their money on expansion and R&D. It's the same with Tesla. They are selling a shit ton of cars at good markup. If they wanted a profit, they could have one. They just don't want one right now.

Tesla differs because they no-longer make reasonable profits on the Model 3 and the better build and more cohesive design of the 3 has eaten the S & X sales.

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It's a property company that's planning tracking everything people do in their buildings. >WeWork's latest acquisition is a small software company with 24 employees. Euclid is a spatial analytics platform...Euclid's website says the company is "focused on redefining the workplace experience of the future." Translation: optimizing every aspect of the physical workplace so workers are their most productive. Euclid does…

Yeah, I don't see that providing the outsized gains they're hoping for. I've talked to a number of entrepreneurs who business plan is basically 1. Collect data 2. ??? 3. Profit And every time I quiz them on point 2, they get squirrely. They can never explain exactly how it works; at best I get hazy references to Google making lots from data, which is at best a partial truth. In this case, I doubt having that data wil…

> humans are already natural optimizers

This right here. Most humans will do whatever they can to achieve minimal work. However, they aren't great at gathering all the necessary data and often find local maxima, so there is still some value in "AI augmentation".

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post #20

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Thats because Amazon was only unprofitable due to Capex and R&D. Their operating margin is fantastic, it was this promise that enticed investors! WeWork on the other hand is very ugly.

The retail margins are about the same as walmart. They don't have some magic sauce in selling things. AWS is their real money maker.

Walmart is a good comparison. Amazon is in the volume game just like them.

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Apparently Adam has pledged $1B in charitable donations over the next 10 years, otherwise he loses voting power. Is this normal?

>To evidence their commitment to charitable causes and to ensure this commitment is meaningful, if Adam and Rebekah have not contributed at least $1 billion to charitable causes as of the ten-year anniversary of the closing date of this offering, holders of all of the Company's high-vote stock will only be entitled to ten votes per share instead of twenty votes per share.```

Re: The We Company S-1

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Apparently Adam has pledged $1B in charitable donations over the next 10 years, otherwise he loses voting power. Is this normal? >To evidence their commitment to charitable causes and to ensure this commitment is meaningful, if Adam and Rebekah have not contributed at least $1 billion to charitable causes as of the ten-year anniversary of the closing date of this offering, holders of all of the Company's high-vote st…

It seems disingenuous to make themselves only 10x more powerful than other investors if they don't do what they say, rather than the accepted 20x.

Is such an ratio normal?

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post #179

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"Peruse can mean 'to read something in a relaxed way, or skim' and can also mean 'to read something carefully or in detail.' Peruse is thus a contronym because it has multiple definitions that seem contradict each other." https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/peruse-usage

Yes I realized this, but this makes the word unnecessarily ambiguous and this new definition is the purely the result of enough people using the word incorrectly long enough. We don't mean "destroy 10%" when we use the word decimate anymore, I get it. Natural language, migration of meaning, subjective denotation etc.

Tell me about it. I spend tons of karma absorbing downvotes in a losing battle correcting 'enormity' and 'epicenter'

Re: The We Company S-1

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This is what seems to not be understood by a lot of investors and people commenting on investments. Amazon could have turned a profit years earlier if they wanted to. Instead it made more sense to continue spending all of their money on expansion and R&D. It's the same with Tesla. They are selling a shit ton of cars at good markup. If they wanted a profit, they could have one. They just don't want one right now.

> It's the same with Tesla. Can you show you get this from? I see it repeated on these boards, ad nauseum, that Tesla is spending their "profits" on R&D and building infrastructure. But in reality, you can see from their financial statements that Tesla's CAPEX spending is embarrassingly small for an auto company, and shrinking. They spent $2BB in 2018 and are on pace to spend half that in 2019. As a sibling comments…

Exactly. This was true of Tesla back when they made only the S & X and blew their R&D dollars on Model 3/AP/Batteries but the Model 3's margins are incredibly bad with sky-high ops costs while they are digging a hole like a car stuck in mud. They are promising FSD (to paid customers), Semi & Roadster (To reserved customers), and a Model Y that will surely eat into Model X sales, meanwhile they are clearly reducing spend in these departments. Without a Model S/X Refresh (That Elon is repeatedly saying will never ever happen) or dramatic reduction in BOM / assembly (which, maybe the Model Y is supposed to bring? maybe? Pigs can fly?) There is no route to profitability.

Re: The We Company S-1

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post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Peruse can mean 'to read something in a relaxed way, or skim' and can also mean 'to read something carefully or in detail.' Peruse is thus a contronym because it has multiple definitions that seem contradict each other." https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/peruse-usage

Yes I realized this, but this makes the word unnecessarily ambiguous and this new definition is the purely the result of enough people using the word incorrectly long enough. We don't mean "destroy 10%" when we use the word decimate anymore, I get it. Natural language, migration of meaning, subjective denotation etc.

So the normative comment should really be: avoid using "peruse" because it's ambiguous.

Re: The We Company S-1

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From Page 199: "A majority of Adam’s awards are also tied to the Company’s performance as a public company, particularly an increase in our market capitalization that is sustained over a period of at least 60 days".

Seriously? just 60 days?

Re: The We Company S-1

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For actually useful comparisons, look at Regus/IWG which is larger and more profitable: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IWG_plc I have used Regus on and off in the US for a decade. I also have a free WeWork subscription through my AMEX platinum (boosting numbers pre-IPO?). Regus is actually better run and more comfortable...just doesn't have the millenial loft vibe. I think that vibe is costing them too much for a re…

Woah, didn't realize Amex had that benefit. Looks like I'm signing up!

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