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Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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Post by hollerith » Thu, Aug 08, 2019, 3:02 AM UTC

fulafel wrote: post #245

nightski wrote: post #75

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Yea but it's typically unsaturated & saturated fat which is being less demonized these days. I'm convinced it's actually healthy for you but don't take my word for it. Refined Canola Oil & Soybean Oil however have artificial trans fatty acids and are high in omega-6 which is inflammatory.

Animal fat contains more trans fats than canola oil ( https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/04/13/ask-... ). Pro/anti inflammatory of o6 effect is determined by the o6/o3 ratio which is ok in canola oil. Though even better in some other vegetable oils like olive. But olive oil would have too strong a taste for this application.

The trans fats in animal products are mostly conjugated linoleic acids, which are actually good for you as far as we have been able to tell:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjugated_linoleic_acid

In other words, the trans fats that result from heating a vegetable oil are almost certain bad for you -- probably really bad -- whereas the trans fats in meat we don't know a lot about, but what we do know suggests that they are good for you. (Conjugated linoleic acids are sold as nutritional supplements.)

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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Post by papito » Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 5:35 PM UTC

rsj_hn wrote: post #214

papito wrote: post #121

I am going to stick with bison, thank you!

How is bison? I had a bison burger once and didn't care for it, but maybe a steak cut is better?

Bison is a much healthier meat. It has less fat, and is loaded with protein. Also, ALL bison is organic due to regulations.

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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Post by seisvelas » Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 8:16 PM UTC

defterGoose wrote: post #173

seisvelas wrote: post #158

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No. I live in Mexico City, where it is not unheard of for the government to outright cut off the city water supply for days to account for shortages. People's preferences haven't changed. Beef continues to be very popular, as do public fountains. The choice not to consume meat (at least here) is mostly associated with pretentious, upperclass people who like yoga and are keenly interested in social justice (there is e…

So what you're saying is that continuing your current beef consumption is a neutral activity, while trying to cut back due to environmental impact is simply virtue signalling? Maybe the people trying to cut back are ahead of the curve. Maybe those people realize that if the worst effects of climate change and population growth come to pass, that cutting back now could mean the impact on beef supply in the future is m…

>is simply virtue signalling

No, more like life style participation.

>I guess, in that case, the "unpretentious, lower class people who hate yoga" would have those tree huggers to thank.

We need many countries to make national-level policies about this. The Instagram people are a smug drop in the bucket.

>we still find ourselves in conflict at every turn. That's because you can't go too long without confronting the objective physical reality of scarcity of resources.

That correlation seems made up. Has there been an increase of scarcity-driven wars? Most wartorn places don't seem to be resource scarce.