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Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by owl57 » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 10:35 AM UTC

w1nst0nsm1th wrote: post #236

bediger4000 wrote: post #100

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> people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers Oddly, this is the factor that underlies most of my personal beefs with both Microsoft and Apple. What's wrong with my wifi? At least I can look in journalctl on linux. My laptop doesn't have enough screenspace - I can use i3wm on linux. I want double-click to include '*' and '/' and ':' in a "word", hey I can change xterm config. I want left-mouse-b…

Trackpad drivers on linux are not even close of the kind of gesture MacOS allow, with the help of a third party app. And to configure the said trackpad, I have a nice GUI allowing me to define dozens of mouvement, triggers and response events for whatever application. No need to study the obscure documentation of xinput or whatever, if you're even successfull to find it on the web, only to dicover the possibilities d…

XFCE and LXDE looks like windows 95

Most of all, it looks exactly like it looked last year. That's a feature.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by NullPrefix » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 11:10 AM UTC

whereistimbo wrote: post #249

jchw wrote: post #241

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I will investigate, but if you have a solid source for that it would save me the trouble. Thanks anyways. I’d really like for MS to stop doing this if they haven’t, I have a personal ban on running Windows outside of VMs until its over. UPDATE: Sigh... you are correct. Fresh install, Win10 Pro, same garbage. https://i.imgur.com/zDWo4Hb.png

Are you signed into Microsoft account or using local account? I've heard that Microsoft account sync the start menu layout, so it might come from your previous install. I'm using Win10 1903 fresh install (local account) and I haven't get candy crush tile ever.

Previously a fresh install was enough to fix windows. Does it mean that you need a new online account every time you reinstall?

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by merb » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 12:21 PM UTC

whereistimbo wrote: post #249

jchw wrote: post #241

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I will investigate, but if you have a solid source for that it would save me the trouble. Thanks anyways. I’d really like for MS to stop doing this if they haven’t, I have a personal ban on running Windows outside of VMs until its over. UPDATE: Sigh... you are correct. Fresh install, Win10 Pro, same garbage. https://i.imgur.com/zDWo4Hb.png

Are you signed into Microsoft account or using local account? I've heard that Microsoft account sync the start menu layout, so it might come from your previous install. I'm using Win10 1903 fresh install (local account) and I haven't get candy crush tile ever.

most people think that the start menu ribbons are things that are installed. however with windows pro for home users you might also get candy crush, but there is also windows pro for business which only has some ribbons like bubble witch that would install it, when clicked.

i'm still always confused why somebody creates two versions and label them 'as business' and as home use.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by codedokode » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 2:43 PM UTC

panpanna wrote: post #245

FullMetalBitch wrote: post #210

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What do you mean the allow domains? It seems windows pro receives less ads than home so it may be that. Anyway there have been times where I was doing heavy browsing where I got over 20% and some times over 25%. I also block everything from facebook. My top blocked domains today are: self.events.data.microsoft.com, activity.windows.com, watson.telemetry.microsoft.com and reddit.map.fastly.com

These don't even sound as ad site: self.events.data.microsoft.com, activity.windows.com. Maybe you are blocking some legitimate traffic, forcing it to retry many times?

Collecting telemetry against user's will is not a legitimate traffic.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by jchw » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 3:58 PM UTC

whereistimbo wrote: post #249

jchw wrote: post #241

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I will investigate, but if you have a solid source for that it would save me the trouble. Thanks anyways. I’d really like for MS to stop doing this if they haven’t, I have a personal ban on running Windows outside of VMs until its over. UPDATE: Sigh... you are correct. Fresh install, Win10 Pro, same garbage. https://i.imgur.com/zDWo4Hb.png

Are you signed into Microsoft account or using local account? I've heard that Microsoft account sync the start menu layout, so it might come from your previous install. I'm using Win10 1903 fresh install (local account) and I haven't get candy crush tile ever.

Local account. If you are connected to the network it tries to download it.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by bediger4000 » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 7:24 PM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #226

bediger4000 wrote: post #100

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> people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers Oddly, this is the factor that underlies most of my personal beefs with both Microsoft and Apple. What's wrong with my wifi? At least I can look in journalctl on linux. My laptop doesn't have enough screenspace - I can use i3wm on linux. I want double-click to include '*' and '/' and ':' in a "word", hey I can change xterm config. I want left-mouse-b…

Most people don't do these things on their computers: > journalctl, i3wm, xterm config, non-standard mouse configurations The versatility of Linux is frequently touted as its best feature, a feature that 99% of humans don't care about, and would confuse that same 99% of people. People are used to what Microsoft and Apple imposed on them. For better, or for worse, they honestly couldn't give a damn about being able to…

Agreed, most people don't do much more than open "Edge" and "Outlook", some people Use "Word", a few people use "Excel" because "Word" doesn't do tables very well. The point being two-fold:

1. The argument that a Linux desktop won't fly because people do so damn many things that a Linux desktop just can't do is false. 2. Windows and Mac really push you hard into a single style of interacting with your computer.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet » Sat, Jul 13, 2019, 9:03 PM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #226

bediger4000 wrote: post #100

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> people stop underestimating what users actually do with computers Oddly, this is the factor that underlies most of my personal beefs with both Microsoft and Apple. What's wrong with my wifi? At least I can look in journalctl on linux. My laptop doesn't have enough screenspace - I can use i3wm on linux. I want double-click to include '*' and '/' and ':' in a "word", hey I can change xterm config. I want left-mouse-b…

Most people don't do these things on their computers: > journalctl, i3wm, xterm config, non-standard mouse configurations The versatility of Linux is frequently touted as its best feature, a feature that 99% of humans don't care about, and would confuse that same 99% of people. People are used to what Microsoft and Apple imposed on them. For better, or for worse, they honestly couldn't give a damn about being able to…

> a feature that 99% of humans don't care about, and would confuse that same 99% of people.

This is precisely the kind of condescending bullshit I'm talking about.

> People are used to what Microsoft and Apple imposed on them.

A convenient fantasy for Linux Desktop evangelists to soothe their egos.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by chefandy » Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 2:52 PM UTC

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #82

chefandy wrote: post #63

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Linux machines are fantastic if you don't need to use commercial software for things like graphics, as many web-focused developers do.

Between Gimp, Inkscape and Krita, what are the things not covered in this domain?

Using those tools for professional graphics work is like being a software developer and using notepad as your text editor, or being a chef and using a residential electric stove in your restaurant. Sure, it's possible to achieve similar (or in some cases equivalent) results, but it's just not worth the hassle.

Also, when you're making artwork on a deadline, fooling with virtual machines and things like that just doesn't make sense. There are just too many moving parts. Having to deal with layers of technology is a serious impediment to letting your creativity flow.

I first installed Linux off of floppies in the mid-90s on a hand-me-down 486— my distaste for that workflow isn't born from lack of experience or technical knowlege— it's born from the knowledge of the very real consequences of having an overly complicated toolchain when doing time-sensitive work.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by chefandy » Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 3:01 PM UTC

godelski wrote: post #78

chefandy wrote: post #63

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Linux machines are fantastic if you don't need to use commercial software for things like graphics, as many web-focused developers do.

I do graphics, but on the scientific side, we all use Linux. Except when the lab provides us Macs, then we get frustrated and just remote in. I'm just trying to detangle the type of graphics being mentioned. I do wish Nvidia drivers were better, but maybe that'll happen with ROCs coming out soon.

Creating scientific graphics is a much different job than doing graphic design.

Re: Anomalous CPU utilization on Windows build node caused by ads

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Post by chefandy » Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 3:49 PM UTC

basq wrote: post #165

AJ007 wrote: post #117

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It’s worth mentioning Blender 2.8 too. This is software people are leaving top tier commercial 3D apps like Maya for because it is better. The stereotype of unfriendly UI and UX in open software is breaking down and does not have to be a given.

Blender is good for character animation, but it's learning curve is higher and there aren't as many QoL improvements as in other 3d software. 2.8 is a step in the right direction but I still find cinema4d to be much much much faster to get results with for my purposes of motion graphics.

Speed really is the crux of the biscuit. It's not like you can't get the same results using FOSS, but the amount of time and effort to do so is significantly increased.