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San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigarette Ban

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Re: San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigarette Ban

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I'll never understand why lawmakers think that fruit and other flavorings for tobacco are aimed at getting kids hooked. It's almost like they think no adult has ever enjoyed fruit or candy, and that making teens smoke plain cigarettes will keep them from being rebellious. I've tried almost every variation of ecigarette mod out there except mechanical mods, because I'm not an idiot enough to know I'm too much of an id…

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"Cigarettes and other tobacco products will remain legal in the city, along with recreational marijuana."

But e-cigs are banned?

That's messed up. If you're going to protect people's health (at the expense of some freedom) be consistent about it.

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#253

This is perverse given that tobacco cigarettes are still widely available. I can't remember the last time I was actually satisfied with a decision from the Board of Supervisors.

SF is completely fucked from a priorities standpoint. Really glad I no longer live anywhere near there.

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#254

This is perverse given that tobacco cigarettes are still widely available. I can't remember the last time I was actually satisfied with a decision from the Board of Supervisors.

How are they sold? In Australia they have the gory death warnings, are sold in cabinets with no logos (just a plain font list of brand names) and are ridiculously expensive $40 for 20. Cigars might be an exception(?)

In Australia too - most people I know just buy undeclared cigarettes. Almost all international students that travel into the country bring a bunch of cartons with them and sell them at $10-$15/packet. It's a way for the international students to make a bit more money given how fucked over they are by the lack of working rights they have, coupled with the ridiculously high cost of living and expensive education costs.

All the price raising on tobacco has done is push revenue into the black market, invent crimes from nothing and turn otherwise honest people into criminals.

Re: San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigarette Ban

#255

I'll never understand why lawmakers think that fruit and other flavorings for tobacco are aimed at getting kids hooked. It's almost like they think no adult has ever enjoyed fruit or candy, and that making teens smoke plain cigarettes will keep them from being rebellious. I've tried almost every variation of ecigarette mod out there except mechanical mods, because I'm not an idiot enough to know I'm too much of an id…

I’m for regulating this as stringently as for regular cigs... but it’s weird... they don’t bother addicts injecting, they provide needles and let them shoot up, no problem. But you wanna vape? Nah!

If they think banning is a solution to vaping and it’ll be successful, why not ban syringes —I’m sure they’re equally effective.

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post #183

This is perverse given that tobacco cigarettes are still widely available. I can't remember the last time I was actually satisfied with a decision from the Board of Supervisors.

While I don't live in SF or even CA, I'll try to offer an explanation of why this might make sense based on what I've observed. I'm 29, which puts me sort of at the intersection of two age groups right now. I'm starting to be able to connect with older folks, and I can still connect with younger 20somethings. Nobody I know under 25 smokes cigarettes. Anecdotally, cigarettes in that age group are nearly universally ab…

It's also worth noting that the unpopularity of cigarettes preceded the rise of vaping by several years. So it felt like the problem was finally being solved for a while.

Re: San Francisco Becomes First U.S. City to Pass an E-Cigarette Ban

#257

This is perverse given that tobacco cigarettes are still widely available. I can't remember the last time I was actually satisfied with a decision from the Board of Supervisors.

SF is completely fucked from a priorities standpoint. Really glad I no longer live anywhere near there.

But banning the sale of e-cigarettes--in the city where smoking weed is more socially acceptable than cigarettes--is easy. Building housing and improving transit is hard and can cost you votes next election.

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Pretty ironic given the same day Juul buys[1] 123 Mission for approx 400 million dollars. [1]: https://sfist.com/2019/06/18/juul-just-bought-a-28-story-som...

Woot! This is NCC Group’s office. Are they getting kicked out?

I work in this building, but not for NCC Group. The word is "yes, once our lease is up." I assume all tenants are in the same boat.

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#259

Pretty ironic given the same day Juul buys[1] 123 Mission for approx 400 million dollars. [1]: https://sfist.com/2019/06/18/juul-just-bought-a-28-story-som...

It's not ironic at all. Juul is buying the building because no one wants to rent to them.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adults like flavored nicotine too, but have you seen the ads? They're blatantly targeted at kids. Hell, I saw one once that showed a vape plugged into the USB port of a kid's laptop in class, where the advertising was basically saying your teacher won't know it's a vape.

I think you may have been tricked, I'm pretty sure there's no official Juul ad like that

It looks like one of the California anti-vaping ads, those feature tons of kids vaping everywhere.
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