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Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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I think that's rather revisionist. At a point in time Chrome was way better than not just IE, but way better than Firefox. The performance was leaps and bounds ahead.

Chrome still has the fastest start up times from what I've seen.

That's because by default it keeps running in the background when you "close" it.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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I think its gotten to the point where power users go around to all their non-power-user friends and install ad blockers for them, at least I do in our office. The reason this is so successful is because it takes 5 seconds to go the the chrome store and add ublock origin. Convincing my non-power-user friends to move to firefox would be significantly harder. Google's goal is to remove the severity (and effectively the…

I may be poorly informed, but why is firefox difficult? I switched a year ago and haven’t really noticed anything different...

GP wasn't saying Firefox is difficult. GP gave a specific example of how it's easy to install an ad blocker on a system that's already running Chrome for someone else; no need to convince them to change browser, no need to tell them to double-click a different icon.

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This hits the nail on the head. This is how big companies lose their way and get eaten by smaller companies. We all think Google is invincible because of their technological monopoly, but the problem of having to grow forever due to the way public markets work necessitates product evolution or squeezing blood from the stone. The real monopoly is philosophy, not technology, and it's so, so, so easy to lose the logos/p…

...logos/pathos/eros... Did you perhaps mean ethos?

I tend to think of ethics as a subset of logic with a side of pathology, whereas love (eros) is a singular category.

I guess if I had to really sort it, I would only talk about love and power, in that order, but I think it's more addressable to speak in language people already kinda get.

But no, I specifically meant eros, not ethos.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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>Not because it was a superior product, not because of technology but because everyone was anti IE. >>>I think that's rather revisionist. I agree with the sibling comments that remembered the past differently: Back in 2008, Chrome was actually the superior product -- for both users and developers. - Chrome had a better partitioned process for each tab. IE and Firefox 3.x didn't so they often crashed on buggy web page…

> - Chrome had very good dev tools included. With Firefox, you had to install the Firebug plugin which was slower and buggier I remember very well that after I made the switch to Chrome, I still used Firefox for all my debugging purposes and web-development. Firebug was way ahead of Chrome Dev tools.

Firebug is dead though. They merged it with Firefox Developer Edition but it still isn't the same thing.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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It would be great if you were right, but I don't think you are. Do you have sources? I got the idea from this [1] reddit comment made by someone with an Mozilla Employee flair: > [...] There is not yet a concrete plan (feature) to bring Web Extensions to Fenix. That does not mean it is not going to happen. It does mean we have some things to figure out first. and this [2] github issue where they state > Not for MVP,…

First of all, I am a Mozilla Employee. Second, in that very github issue that you linked, look at this comment: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/574#issuecomm... . Also, transition from Fennec to Fenix won't happen until feature parity. The MVP is just that, the MVP. Finally, GeckoView does not use the WebView interface, specifically because we want to build richer experiences than the WebView interface…

> transition from Fennec to Fenix won't happen until feature parity

Thank you for the reply. It's really good news to hear that full extension capabilities will continue to be supported!

I was worried by the very comment you linked, as "users will get the experience they expect" sounds carefully crafted to not say anything at all.

Re: Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes

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https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/chrome-may-get-faster-ad-block...

I said: > Ad blocker uBlock Origin “can no longer exist” if a proposed change to Chrome goes through. First, I never ever referred to uBlock Origin as an "ad blocker", so the article is wrong there. Second, I specifically point out that uBlock Origin can no longer exist, not that "ad blockers" can no longer exist.

uBlock Origin isn't an ad blocker?
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