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What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by neilv »

davidivadavid wrote: post #135
neilv wrote: post #21

College students are falling all over themselves, learning each FAANG's interview process, drilling large numbers of problems for the whiteboard tests/hazings, being frontloaded with a bunch of VC dogma about startups, learning lousy frameworks before they have to, etc. But I'm not sure they have much idea what industry and particular companies are actually like.

That's because big tech companies are the new IB/MC. You see the same types of behaviors there.

I've been wondering that, and there's evidence.

Tech does still get traditional nerds, who'd do CS even if there was no money in it.

But I wonder how many of the traditional nerds are choosing other STEM fields partly because of the perception of current CS jobs.

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by CydeWeys »

nitely wrote: post #248
CydeWeys wrote: post #124

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It's not appropriate at work, full stop. HR will have to discipline if not fire you in order to limit their legal liability for this. They will certainly have to fire you if you continue doing it after being asked to stop. They could be on the hooks for a lot of money in a nearly-guaranteed workplace harassment lawsuit if they allow you to persist. And anyway, if your intent is actually to get laid, then randomly ask…

They were drunk, so probably not at work. Not saying it's right or wrong. But probably less wrong.

You could still easily get fired for it, and the dumb shit you do outside of the office to your co-workers will haunt you once you get back to the office. It's not Vegas rules.

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by nitely »

CydeWeys wrote: post #253
nitely wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were drunk, so probably not at work. Not saying it's right or wrong. But probably less wrong.

You could still easily get fired for it, and the dumb shit you do outside of the office to your co-workers will haunt you once you get back to the office. It's not Vegas rules.

Well, maybe if someone record it and put it on social media. Otherwise, I doubt it. Actually, even then I doubt it, I've never seen it happen. From the article, it does not look like they got fired.

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by CydeWeys »

nitely wrote: post #254
CydeWeys wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could still easily get fired for it, and the dumb shit you do outside of the office to your co-workers will haunt you once you get back to the office. It's not Vegas rules.

Well, maybe if someone record it and put it on social media. Otherwise, I doubt it. Actually, even then I doubt it, I've never seen it happen. From the article, it does not look like they got fired.

I've seen it happen. There are plenty widely publicized instances of it happening, too.

Anyway I said "could", not "would". It depends on how coarse you are with it, how dogged you are in doing so despite being told no, how many different people you do it to, and of course if you're reported.

The overall point is, though, that it's not a good idea.

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by task_queue »

thereisnospork wrote: post #96
task_queue wrote: post #78

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> Talented and ambitious people would hate being in a labor union Doubt it. Mentorship and apprenticeship opportunities are abound. Unions provide a floor for negotiations from which you can up-negotiate. If your categorization was true, actors would never have breakout opportunities despite their union representation. Reality disagrees with your assertion and any movie star ever acts as evidence contrary to your cla…

Movie stars are in a guild, not a union. Much like doctors. Unions have personally screwed me out of hundreds of dollars of month in payment for pensions I'll never see because they've forced me into inappropriate position titles to the benefit of legacy members.

The Actor's Guild is a labor union and part of the AFL-CIO.

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by RangerScience »

sumedh wrote: post #91
RangerScience wrote: post #90

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> more likely Both? A coworker at a former job comes to mind. He kept pointing out a problem that everyone else was ignoring, and they kept ignoring it. He gradually got minimized until he left on his own, and the problem remained. He definitely rubbed people the wrong way. The problem definitely existed.

What kind of problem was it, did he/she try to fix it on their own, did others acknowledge that was a problem and needed to be fixed?

I think it was "to have or not have CI systems"; yes; no.

It's the sort of thing you can "fix" on your own, but if you don't get any buy-in from everyone else, you're kinda SOL.

Re: What I gained, lost and learned while working for Microsoft

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Post by code_duck »

phs318u wrote: post #168
hamburglar wrote: post #157

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There's a huge difference between a luxury and something that indicates you have achieved a lavish and impressive lifestyle. A cup of coffee at starbucks is a luxury.

Off topic warning. > A cup of coffee are starbucks is a luxury. In Melbourne, Australia a coffee at Starbucks is considered: 1. A sign that you’re a tourist. 2. A sign that you’re a masochist. 3. A cry for help. 4. All of the above. Sorry, I couldn’t help myself :)

For me, in Denver, it means that it is 5:30 and nobody else is open yet.
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