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Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by dzhiurgis »

m3kw9 wrote: post #246
dzhiurgis wrote: post #242

I've tried Impossible Burger once in a some random bar. Was dissatisfied - texture was ok, but had weird after taste. Also tried to cook some Beyond Meat burgers the other week. The stench was horrible, even my roommates noticed. Topped with mayo, garlic butter, bbq sauce and onions it did kinda hide the horrible flavour, but still I couldn't finish it. I could feel that horrible flavour for a day or two after. Reall…

For a vegan that is craving meat, this could be acceptable lol

Was thinking the same. Unless you are craving for meat and have forgotten how real meat tastes - perhaps it's ok.

But then there are hundreds of marketing articles saying that some vegans are disgusted how "real" of a meat this taste like. Pure lies.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by abawany »

ggcdn wrote: post #33
r00fus wrote: post #7

So I've had an Impossible burger (from my company cafeteria), but it was probably over-cooked. Does anyone know where I could taste-test a Beyond burger vs. Impossible burger? Definitely interested in this space as it's one of the surefire ways we reduce both energy and water, and I have family who are veggie and this makes it easier for me to connect with them.

A&W (Canada) has Beyond Meat burgers. I liked it just as much as a beef burger.

Agreed. They will even serve it without a bun, wrapped in lettuce. Good stuff.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by sridca »

balls187 wrote: post #129
vangala2 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of things that the cow eats during its life that don't make it onto that label but do definitely make it into your body. none of the ingredients in the list above scare me. If you still think that beef is better than a plant based alternative for you or the environment you are disillusioned. I'm not vegetarian either

You're buying into the myth that if it's made of plants, it must be better than meat. The nutrition of Beyond Burger is pretty much on par with the nutrition of beef. I'm not convinced that consuming "plant based alternatives" is a step in the right direction in dealing with health and environment issues especially when compared to more traditional approach like eating balanced meals using a plate model. Eating more…

> Eating more veggies, on the other hand, yes much better.

In what way exactly would "eating more veggies" be much better when meat is already the only nutritionally complete[1] food?

[1] http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/food/meats/#i16

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by dzhiurgis »

lamby wrote: post #248
dzhiurgis wrote: post #242

I've tried Impossible Burger once in a some random bar. Was dissatisfied - texture was ok, but had weird after taste. Also tried to cook some Beyond Meat burgers the other week. The stench was horrible, even my roommates noticed. Topped with mayo, garlic butter, bbq sauce and onions it did kinda hide the horrible flavour, but still I couldn't finish it. I could feel that horrible flavour for a day or two after. Reall…

Don't forget they are really selling a wider cknversation/story/narrative/worldview than just the meat. To focus too much on the product itself might therefore be a mistake. (Besides, that part can always be tuned... )

That's why I stick with regular vegetarian meals. Indian thali is amazing. Tofu, tempeh, quinoa - passable.

Fake meat - non starter (same with mylks).

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by sridca »

randomsearch wrote: post #89
Forge36 wrote: post #58

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I don't know if any evidence to suggest a vegan diet is worse than a meat diet. Provided all nutrient needs are met.

Yep. Like a meat diet, a vegan diet will indeed be perfectly healthy provided it is reasonably balanced. You need to watch a few things, such as B12 intake. OTOH, there is plenty of evidence as to the negative effects of meat on health - the higher fat intake, for instance, and the increased cancer risk.

> there is plenty of evidence as to the negative effects of meat on health - the higher fat intake, for instance, and the increased cancer risk.

Please stop mindlessly spreading this nonsense. Meat is perfectly healthy. http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/food/meats/

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by Pfhreak »

ajharrison wrote: post #222
Pfhreak wrote: post #3

I've gone vegetarian, except for a single grass fed animal I bought from a local farmer. (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) The transition was way, way easier than I thought it was going to be. I didn't guilt myself when I made mistakes, just stopped eating meat unless I was sure the provenance of it was sustainable and free from cr…

So you haven’t gone vegetarian then - you just don’t eat meat a lot.

I disagree. My eating choices have resulted in the deliberate slaughter of a single animal (to the best of my ability to track this) over a 1.5 year period. I've refused all meat except the meat that comes from that animal, and even then I eat it only rarely. I will refuse meat from other sources -- friends and family, restaurants, prepackaged foods, cheeses with rennet, gelatin, etc.

Being a vegetarian or not has fuzzy boundaries and many denominations. It's much, much simpler for everyone involved to view me as vegetarian, even if it's not a strict, 100% no meat for years definition.

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Post by lamby »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #254
lamby wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget they are really selling a wider cknversation/story/narrative/worldview than just the meat. To focus too much on the product itself might therefore be a mistake. (Besides, that part can always be tuned... )

That's why I stick with regular vegetarian meals. Indian thali is amazing. Tofu, tempeh, quinoa - passable. Fake meat - non starter (same with mylks).

I don't disagree that those are nicer items, I've had them countless times myself.. but I think you may be missing the "point" of Beyond Meat if you solely talk about the taste or macronutrients.

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Post by everdev »

pembrook wrote: post #237
everdev wrote: post #234

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> Stop ascribing human-like emotions and awareness to other species. Well, take a monkey, orca, elephant, dolphin, etc. and it would be hard not to. Sure, many farm animals fall below that level, but they're not bugs either. Many mammals have some basic language, care for their young, give distress calls, migrate, find shelter, etc. which seems to indicate at least some level of future planning whether innate or not.…

> ensure that animals get to experience life in their native habitats including the ability to mate and get eaten This falls under A) fallacious appeal to nature. You're suggesting that living is nature is the better way to live simply because it is natural.

No, I think I said "We don't know" what the better way is.

But if your goal is to let animals roam free in their native habitats then captivity on farms probably doesn't seem like the better option to you.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by giornogiovanna »

sridca wrote: post #244
dsl wrote: post #86

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"Published figures suggest that, in Australia, producing wheat and other grains results in: at least 25 times more sentient animals being killed per kilogram of useable protein" http://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-ther...

HN has increasingly gotten vegetarian/ vegan, so posting articles like this get downvoted en masse. Here's one more: http://meatheals.com/

Firstly, that's ridiculous, vegetarians are definitely a minority on HN. And secondly, that's ridiculous, the people on that website are attributing all kinds of unrelated things to a "carnivore diet". Are you seriously trying to suggest that it's a cure-all?

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by avree »

alangpierce wrote: post #241
chaostheory wrote: post #113

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Impossible Burger has been available in stores in the SF Bay Area for what seems like a few weeks now, if not longer. I remember it because it's expensive compared to real meat. I got it at Safeway. It wasn't the Beyond Burger.

That's fantastic if so. Their FAQ still says it's "coming later this year, find it at a restaurant". I follow them pretty closely and haven't seen any press about it. https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600190998... I guess I'll look at some Safeways to see if I can find it, maybe it's in some stealth release or something.

FWIW, I have never seen an Impossible Burger in any Safeway (or Whole Foods) in the Bay Area. And I somehow doubt they would have just stealth launched an enormous chain without someone noticing; https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/Safeway-to-Carry-the-Pla... there are plenty of articles like this about the Beyond Burger getting into different chains.
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