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Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Ecuadorian here. Revealing the truth is not insulting us. Most of our people are(or at least should be) grateful that corruption activities are disclosed.

But it is not your people that are hosting, but the government. The Equadorian government are literally the only people assange should be on the good side.

the irony of what you just said.

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That Manning matter is settled. She has immunity and double jeopardy protection. Sitting in jail in protest of a grand jury is a futile gesture that says more about Manning’s need for attention than anything else.

I don't understand how you can claim this is a futile gesture. If she doesn't want to talk on the record, or state things which might involve snitching on someone I find that to be an admirable action to take. By the end of the grand jury she will be freed, and she will be freed with the moral high ground. If you think having morals about not snitching is 'futile' that is your choice but many people take it very seri…

Manning is willing to talk on the record and "snitch". She just doesn't want to do it behind closed doors. But all grand jury proceedings are done behind closed doors for good reason. Manning has no moral high ground here.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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I lived down there for 7 years that coincided with his presence in the country, and I've commented on the uniqueness of Correa as a politician before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5984041 I think it's still a good comparison: Correa was his country's Bismark. He was in the right place at the right time -- Bismark himself famously having said that the job of the politician is to listen for God's footsteps and…

I’d love to hear how long you’ve lived in Ecuador and how do you like it there?

I lived in a small fishing village, barring the occasional tourist and surf expedition further afield, and it's still my favorite place in the world.

I loved the only street noise being the occasional donkey. I worked over a tiny EDGE connection for years until real connectivity got to my area, working over a 'screen' session to a beefy VPS in the states.

I can't help but agree with some of the characterizations of the cities in Ecuador. But then again, personally I wouldn't understand someone who would come to the country with the primary intention of seeing those cities, saying to themselves "oh, wow, I want to see Quito or Guayaquil." I wouldn't get it. Guayaquil is kinda like Bangkok or other big cities in underdeveloped areas; bustling and alive and joyous in its own sort of way, but not something that'd draw me around the world to visit. FWIW, Loja and Cuenca are more pleasant cities to visit.

But a laid-back fishing village with good neighbors? With good sand-bottom beach breaks and warm water? Tuna and dorado right from the ocean, fresh local produce ... that's ideal for me, and I was already comfortable with small-town and rural life from my time in the United States.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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> WikiLeaks cited the unidentified person as saying the planned expulsion is a response to the organization’s recent tweet linking to a website that alleged money laundering and corruption during Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno’s time as United Nations special envoy for the disabled in Geneva. Foreign Minister Jose Valencia said last month that the government was “very surprised” by that and other actions by Assang…

Us: you're clearly partisan because you only publish bad things against muh abuela.

Also us: you don't self-censor to benefit your self-interest? That's just not smart.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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I don't understand how you can claim this is a futile gesture. If she doesn't want to talk on the record, or state things which might involve snitching on someone I find that to be an admirable action to take. By the end of the grand jury she will be freed, and she will be freed with the moral high ground. If you think having morals about not snitching is 'futile' that is your choice but many people take it very seri…

Manning is willing to talk on the record and "snitch". She just doesn't want to do it behind closed doors. But all grand jury proceedings are done behind closed doors for good reason. Manning has no moral high ground here.

Secret proceedings simply shouldn't exist. I think personally that grand juries that are allowed to hold people indefinitely because they don't want to talk in a secret proceeding is wrong. Also, if she talks in a secret proceeding nobody will know if she deliberately said something incriminating aka 'snitched' or just gave innocuous information.

Since her giving secret testimony would raise doubts as to whether she snitched or not, she wants to do so openly in order to maintain her public good-will as a non-snitch. I think you are mistaken in saying that she doesn't have the moral high ground here. These proceedings should be illegal in this country, you shouldn't be allowed to hold someone for unspecified sentences to torture them into talking. That isn't how testimony should be gotten. I'm appalled by some of the opinions here.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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I'm aware. What's that got to do with Assange?

Assange is a polarizing figure. He's a reminder of how irritating it is to comply with international law (it wasn't an uncommon sentiment in the UK that they should just barge in to the embassy and get him anyway). He's a reminder of "overly liberal" European laws (there was a lot of talk about the supposedly unreasonable nature of Sweden's rape laws). In other words, nothing directly, but just seeing his name again…

He's a polarising figure amongst the very small number of people in the UK who a) have heard of him or Wikileaks, b) are more concerned with "overly liberal" European laws than someone who flees the country and enters an embassy to evade the laws of the country he was visiting at the time, and c} still cares about the opinion of someone who has managed to be rabidly partisan, anti-semetic, and is possibly a Russian asset.

I'm sure we're both biased by our respective echo chambers and peer groups, but the idea that Assange has or will have any impact on the current situation is just fantastical.

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What a strangely disingenuous comment. If the FBI investigated me for two years they wouldn't be able to charge me with high profile financial crimes lol. How absurd.

You're 100% certain you've complied with all 70,000 pages of federal tax law and regulations? You've paid sales or use tax on all of your online purchases?

I said "high profile financial crimes" not obscure and rarely enforced legal technicalities.

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To be clear: France has made private paternity testing illegal, while you can still do it through a court decision. Still weird and the reasoning behind it seems backwards.

But why make private testing illegal. It's very clear that only a very small percentage of people who wish to get a test done would approach the court, and how many of them would get the order? E.g. I suspected my child was not mine, so I got a test done secretly only to find out my suspicion was wrong and I was actually the father. Would I have approached the court for the test, if it was illegal? Most likely not, a…

You'll be even more surprised when you hear that they said something alo g "this rule is good for the piece of mind of the French families".
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