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Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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I once used a password which our IT department gave me and it was !'a;@,oq and at least for me it looked random enough. I had it as a root password on a server and I enabled password login for about 2 minutes because I wanted to resize some virtual hard drive or something and couldn't be logged in as a normal user and then switching with su to root because then the normal user would have open files on the file system…

columns, not rows.

Thanks, I'll change it.

edit: damn, too late I can't change it anymore.

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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While you're correct mathematically, I still think it's a good habit to give zero information about your password. If you attempt to estimate the information leakage with every "hint", sooner or later you'll slip up.

My view is your secrets should be secure even if the attacker knows everything about how they are generated and used. For example: My password is 8192 characters long, leveraging only the ASCII character set (except \n\r\t\0) It is changed every 28days at 11:05am It is only used on exactly 1 website and the username on that website is also only used on that website and randomly generated as well. Good luck (Tell me h…

Telling someone your password is 8 characters long and memorable vs telling them it is 8192 characters long and unrecallable are two entirely different things.

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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I like how they took the opportunity of the popularity of the post to promote their political viewpoints on trans people (post immediately under first post by same author). It just makes the first post look like clickbait. Why do people feel the need to introduce politics into something that isn't political once they get an audience? Boo.

Plugging something when your post blows up on Twitter is a time honored tradition, usually someone will plug their sound cloud or Instagram in an attempt to capitalize on the attention. This author chose to direct attention towards an underprivileged group, and you're angry about it? Get over yourself.

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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Because bunch of us memorized fckgw rhqq2 yxrkt 8tg6w 2b7q8 for the very same reason back in early 2000s

it's even on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_licensing#Leaked_keys

That fact that it's even at the risk of being published on the public web should be enough to disqualify it as a passphrase for everyone.

I've had users use parts of lesser known poems or stories in some foreign language, because who would expect that, right? Turns out that's not what's relevant to a good password but rather whether it is in any available corpus.

If your passphrase consists of something likely to be in wikipedia you are guaranteed to get owned in minutes.

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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I'm willing to believe that if you could help me understand a bit more why that is so.

Think of it this way: assume someone is trying to brute force your password. For simplicity let's say they know nothing about it, except that its characters are randomly drawn from a 50 character pool. As they guess passwords starting with 1 character, each added character takes 50x longer than all previous guesses put together to guess all possible passwords of that length. Put another way, if they knew the length b…

Gotcha. I guess I was unclear about what "almost as secure" meant in this context.

So whether providing your length is a tangible security leak or not is essentially a function of the size of your character pool, because if your password is short enough for n-1 to contain a significant percentage of possible combinations then it's probably already short enough to brute force anyway.

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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Even if you've provided information which narrows your password down to ~5,000 possible values, you've effectively handed out your password to one of 5,000 internet strangers whom you will never meet in real life. Then consider that this is Hacker News, and how many of those 5,000 have both the skills and motivation to exploit the information you've provided. Never give out "hints" about your password. Not its conten…

Sure, many of us have the skills to exploit that information, but the motivation? This isn't Mos Eisley.

Well I was referring to the intersection between the two. Out of all of the potential people to see OP's post here, there is a much higher likelihood of at least one of them containing both the skillset and the motivation required to exploit the information than on other popular aggregators.

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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I like how they took the opportunity of the popularity of the post to promote their political viewpoints on trans people (post immediately under first post by same author). It just makes the first post look like clickbait. Why do people feel the need to introduce politics into something that isn't political once they get an audience? Boo.

Plugging something when your post blows up on Twitter is a time honored tradition, usually someone will plug their sound cloud or Instagram in an attempt to capitalize on the attention. This author chose to direct attention towards an underprivileged group, and you're angry about it? Get over yourself.

I didn't state I was angry, and I'm not lol. I just thought it was stupid. Maybe don't assume things not stated?

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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Holy shit! Now that I have changed the password, can you please tell me how did you guess that?

You said you were 15 and it was a very popular software that needed to be installed relatively often. I guess people on here are 30-ish, so it happened 15 years ago in the 00s. This hints strongly towards WinXP, which has a few famous leaked Serials.

Whatever way you phrased this I feel Sherlock Homes mode is happening here. And the following is tangential to the OPs headline so it may or may not be interesting to HN folk. Last week in my local paper the daily quiz asked what is the common name for "Galanthus nivalis". To my younger self it would have seemed impossible, but now that I am older and more informed (though NOT smarter) I spotted the 'gala' at the start. Hmmm. The word 'galaxy' starts with 'gala'. I remember that galaxy and milky way are somehow related. Milk is white. What flower (given it is Spring here in Northern Europe) could be white (-ish?). Aha, snowdrop! And to me (seriously) I felt utter astonishment that I was right. I am not smart. But this machine that I seem to have could do that. Well, wow to the maker that did that.

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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Think of it this way: assume someone is trying to brute force your password. For simplicity let's say they know nothing about it, except that its characters are randomly drawn from a 50 character pool. As they guess passwords starting with 1 character, each added character takes 50x longer than all previous guesses put together to guess all possible passwords of that length. Put another way, if they knew the length b…

Gotcha. I guess I was unclear about what "almost as secure" meant in this context. So whether providing your length is a tangible security leak or not is essentially a function of the size of your character pool, because if your password is short enough for n-1 to contain a significant percentage of possible combinations then it's probably already short enough to brute force anyway.

That's not right. You can make a secure password using only ABC as your character pool, if you make it 60 characters long. In that case the percentage of combinations covered by n-1 is a full third of the n character combinations, and your attacker can get a 25% speed boost by you revealing the length. But it's still more secure than a 59 character password, and far more secure than a 57 character password, and all of them are extremely secure.

A good way to look at it is to measure the password in bits of randomness. At most, revealing length can shave off one bit. For any reasonable character set it shaves off a small fraction of a bit. And one bit does not make the difference between good or borderline or bad.

Re: The password “ji32k7au4a83” has been seen over a hundred times

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post #137

I once used a password which our IT department gave me and it was !'a;@,oq and at least for me it looked random enough. I had it as a root password on a server and I enabled password login for about 2 minutes because I wanted to resize some virtual hard drive or something and couldn't be logged in as a normal user and then switching with su to root because then the normal user would have open files on the file system…

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