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Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy

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Re: Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy

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People drastically understate the infrastructure and other issues you note in places outside of major urban centers of technology. My children do not have a net benefit from a huge home on a huge plot of land if the schools are garbage, there are few or no parks, the politics are very conservative, and diversity is lacking.

As someone coming from Poland, a country that’s pretty much 100% white and Polish, I don’t feel that the lack of “diversity” has negatively impacted my development. It seems to me that people in the US have been brainwashed (in schools, by media etc.) into believing that diversity is always good and lack of diversity is always bad, while in reality it’s not that simple.

How do you measure the people you've lost? I love Poland, but it's intolerance has chased away some of its best people. Every LGBQ individual I meet was eager to get out of Poland. Every artist hates Kaczynski. Every intellectual from Poland seems to find it easier to live in London or Paris, rather than Warsaw or Krakow.

Poland was the great innovator of Western science when Kopernicus looked at the stars, but Poland was remarkably tolerant at that time. Have you read "Poland Was Shockingly Liberal During The 1400s"?

http://www.smashcompany.com/philosophy/poland-was-shockingly...

Re: Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy

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I agree. And its not like im here to bash conservatives, its just looking at all these super tech companies like google and apple, its hard to imagine Tim Cook seriously considering locating his business in a state where his ER surgeon could refuse service to him because he is gay. most of our effort to get into the fast lane of "silicon valley" has been a thinly-veiled attempt at doing something, anything, to reduce…

You're just going overboard with spurious trash talk of other states. No ER surgeon is turning down ANY patient ANYWHERE in the U.S.

Yes it's absolutely spurious.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/05/07/health-car...

It never happens.

https://abc7ny.com/health/michigan-lesbian-couple-says-pedia...

Nope. Not Ever.

https://www.self.com/story/denial-of-health-care

This literally took me less than two minutes to find. I'd imagine longer than it took to intentionally bury one's head in the sand.

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Or groups of people live in certain geographic areas and are not served by public transit or near government offices like a DMV. That can have the effect of making it generally harder one one group despite equal competence.

This would be interesting and I’m curious about the extent to which this happens, but this hypothesis doesn’t support the claim that “absent information about getting an ID, it is nearly impossible for blue-collar minorities (but not their white counterparts) to vote”. Also, if you lack access to public transit, I would expect you’re more likely to have an ID, not less so.

Literally there are states where they closed voting locations and DMV locations in predominantly minority areas. They created a requirement for a license and then claimed it would only impact 16 year olds and they would "drive to people's houses" at the same time that they claimed they were "out of money". Nevermind that the whole state has an issue with not enough polling stations.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/10/01/alabama-drivers-licen...

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/georgia-county-abandons-pl...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/10/30/midterm-elect...

Re: Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy

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The people who lived in towns which thrived long before the economy failed them don't need to justify their existence in economic terms. The question you should be asking is whether or not this economy has any benefit to those people. What an absolutely inhuman comment this is.

>economy failed them Its everyone else fault that nobody wanted to buy the crap their local industries made?

You're better off just not posting if the first infantile misfiring of your brain is what you decide is fit to type into the comment box.

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It's all mainly farmland.

But if left to it's own devices (or with a little assistance from the bison), may return to prairie very quickly. I suspect it wouldn't take long for native grasses to outcompete any residual farmable crops.

We need this farmland, right?

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But if left to it's own devices (or with a little assistance from the bison), may return to prairie very quickly. I suspect it wouldn't take long for native grasses to outcompete any residual farmable crops.

We need this farmland, right?

Nope.[0]

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_the_United_Sta...

Re: Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy

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almost no one in any sort of governmental power on the US left has proposed a gun ban Senator Feinstein (D-CA) advocated for a total gun ban right on "60 Minutes".

Sigh. For the skeptical downvoters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj4AcjyuV38

That's for assault weaponry.
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