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Why I’m done with Chrome

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Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by hcs »

mehrdadn wrote: post #233
ctnb wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to use Firefox Developer Edition and change 'xpinstall.signatures.required' to True in about:config

What about the part where I wrote > Yes, I want Firefox stable. I don't want to run a buggy browser. ? Is the developer edition running the same code as stable?

Developer Edition is essentially Beta with a few changes (which means additional telemetry by default so probably not up your alley):

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/04/simplifying-firefox-releas... (edit for better link)

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by lh7777 »

codethief wrote: post #188
lh7777 wrote: post #162

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I really want to like Firefox (or any of the alternative browsers mentioned here for that matter), but I frequently use my Surface in tablet mode and the only browsers with acceptable touch screen support on Windows are Edge and Chrome. Last I checked, this still didn't seem to be a priority for Firefox.

What exactly do you mean? (Honest question) Firefox works great on my tablet.

They've actually fixed a number of minor issues over the past year or so, but Firefox still doesn't support pinch zoom on Windows[1]. Being able to reorder tabs using the touchscreen would also be nice, but not as critical.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688990

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by dannyw »

masswerk wrote: post #135

Something, I missed in the article, is Chrome's background in WebKit. (Rather, it seems to convey the impression that this was an original project by Google.) Anyway, this may also directing us towards a viable alternative: A new, independent and cross-platform repackaging of WebKit2 / WebCore.

Any problems with Safari?

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by IBM »

reaperducer wrote: post #86
Twirrim wrote: post #58

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It doesn't for _now_. Which is no small part of his point. The next step is to automatically turn on sync etc, which is an easier step now people will start to be used to the idea they're automatically signed in to stuff in Chrome. The main thrust though, is that this doesn't actually solve anything for end users that the Google Chrome team says it does. There appears to be absolutely no benefit in turning this on.

The main thrust though, is that this doesn't actually solve anything for end users that the Google Chrome team says it does. There appears to be absolutely no benefit in turning this on. Over the last year or so, it feels more and more like Google, as a company, is getting desperate. Like it feels the external tide of popular opinion turning against it. But rather than mend its ways, a decision has been made somewher…

It's not GDPR. If anything, GDPR will help undo some of this as test cases in the EU are litigated.

I think the change happened shortly after Ruth Porat was brought on and the Alphabet reorganization was announced (Larry Page wanted to retire without having that be the headline). There was clearly a change in mandate to start monetizing more aggressively and you started seeing the ad load increase across all their properties. That all happened during a lull in Google's stock price. It started trending upwards after Porat signaled to investors that all the money pits would be cut back.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by Aelius »

zmw wrote: post #171
kbenson wrote: post #68

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Firefox's web tools are slightly different, but very comparable. Firefox container tabs are game changing.

Container tabs just makes up for lack of easy profile switching (at least on macOS, not sure about Windows or Linux), which was in Chrome for years. Even after it came, I gave it a try and found it pretty cumbersome. (Before I get you-can-do-this-and-that replies, I know Profile Manager exists, and that's an ugly hack: macOS users should not need to run multiple copies of the same app bundle.)

If you think different profiles is comprable to container tabs, you haven't really understood how to use container tabs, or possibly even what container tabs are for.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by mehrdadn »

hcs wrote: post #251
mehrdadn wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the part where I wrote > Yes, I want Firefox stable. I don't want to run a buggy browser. ? Is the developer edition running the same code as stable?

Developer Edition is essentially Beta with a few changes (which means additional telemetry by default so probably not up your alley): https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/04/simplifying-firefox-releas... (edit for better link)

Yeah, I neither want beta nor telemetry...

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by abraham »

skndr wrote: post #120

For those who've switched over to Firefox recently and find Youtube inexplicably slow, it's "because YouTube's Polymer redesign relies on the deprecated Shadow DOM v0 API only implemented in Chrome." [0] The YouTube Classic extension will speed things up: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-class... [0] https://twitter.com/cpeterso/status/1021626510296285185

Shadow DOM v0 is deprecated in Chrome and will be removed in April 2019. https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/09/chrome-70-...

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by naringas »

partiallypro wrote: post #248

Google started going down the path I would describe as an "evil" path years ago. I'm glad people are starting to notice. I used to be a huge Google advocate, up until about 2008. So many things have changed since then. Adsense was the first breach in trust for me, when they banned my account for no reason and ruined any chance of every monetizing my content...since they are basically a monopoly in that area. Getting…

I used to think that google today is like microsoft back in the late 90s and early 00s but your comment makes me think it might be even worse.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Post by sergiotapia »

ikketilstede wrote: post #160
sergiotapia wrote: post #35

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I switched to Brave - not looking back :)

Thank you for this suggestion. I truly appreciate it. I just dumped Chrome on mobile and started using Firefox. While it is a fast browser it is nothing compared to Brave. I'm completely blown away by this browser. Now I'm going to install Brave on my desktop as well.

FYI I'm also using Brave on my mobile device. It's fantastic there as well.
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