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Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by jonhendry18 » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 2:40 AM UTC

RandomInteger4 wrote: post #205

jonhendry18 wrote: post #132

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Why not just take it with a small amount of water?

Water isn't a magic lubricant. Pills still get stuck in my epiglottis with water. Usually when I take pills, I do it followed by a piece of bread and then water, but prior to bed I don't want to eat anything after brushing my teeth and the pill dissolves nicely, and like I said, I assume it's safe, because chewables exist (obviously other drugs don't work in a similar manner).

Ah. Have you tried butter, which would be a lubricant? And it would probably be relatively safe after brushing because of the lack of sugars.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by amorphous » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 7:36 AM UTC

I have a very different sleep aid. A sleep headphone (a headband with speakers woven into that also serves as an eye-mask) combined with white noise (quality rain sound) served by an iPod. The white noise blocks outside sounds much better than earplugs, and the rain soothes me into sleep (always loved it when it rains outside and I'm in bed).

It has become a crutch for me, sometimes I do worry if I have become too dependent on that arrangement, but it works well. In summer the headband can get hot though.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by barrkel » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 9:39 AM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #225

barrkel wrote: post #197

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It was really distracting to read. The mix - and there was a they in there too - broke focus. Sorry.

No problem! Though "they" was used as a gender neutral pronoun -- not to change the subject from "one" to some group. E.g. as in: "if one drinks milk, their bones would benefit".

I think once you've chosen "one", you need to stick with it: "if one drinks milk, one's bones would benefit".

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by senatorobama » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 10:22 AM UTC

amorphous wrote: post #252

I have a very different sleep aid. A sleep headphone (a headband with speakers woven into that also serves as an eye-mask) combined with white noise (quality rain sound) served by an iPod. The white noise blocks outside sounds much better than earplugs, and the rain soothes me into sleep (always loved it when it rains outside and I'm in bed). It has become a crutch for me, sometimes I do worry if I have become too de…

Link to the headband product ?

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by amorphous » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 12:28 PM UTC

senatorobama wrote: post #254

amorphous wrote: post #252

I have a very different sleep aid. A sleep headphone (a headband with speakers woven into that also serves as an eye-mask) combined with white noise (quality rain sound) served by an iPod. The white noise blocks outside sounds much better than earplugs, and the rain soothes me into sleep (always loved it when it rains outside and I'm in bed). It has become a crutch for me, sometimes I do worry if I have become too de…

Link to the headband product ?

There are a lot of crappy ones or overpriced, it takes some trying out to find a good fit. The ones I currently use are those: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sleep-Headphones-Adjustable-Comfort.... Had also good experience with the provider, they eagerly replace broken headphones.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by collyw » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 1:02 PM UTC

chmars wrote: post #91

Melatonin is usually not (freely) sold in Europe while it can be easily bought in the US like vitamin pills or cod liver oil. Is there a recommendable online option with international delivery? (I don't consider the usual 'online pharmacies' recommendable. Even when buying Melatonin in a store in the US, there's still the issue that Melatonin manufacturers and sellers mostly control themselves …)

There are sleeping tablets in the supermarket in Spain that contain it.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by collyw » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 1:06 PM UTC

k__ wrote: post #103

I always dream much when taking Melatonin, which makes the sleep less refreshing.

I thought that indicated REM sleep which is supposed to be the best type. (I heard that alcohol and pot do the opposite,so you have less refreshing sleep).

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by collyw » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 1:08 PM UTC

gordaco wrote: post #83

lucd wrote: post #68

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No need for a prescription in France.

Nor in Spain. I've been taking melatonin for quite some time, and so has my mother. You just go to a pharmacy and buy it over the counter.

You can get it in Mercadona's sleeping pills.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by collyw » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 1:13 PM UTC

TACIXAT wrote: post #144

I have cut out sugar and caffeine for dietary reasons and my sleep schedule did not improve at all. I tried those red shift apps and they did not change my sleep schedule. The last few weeks I was not working on my computer late at night and got tired at a reasonable time. Now that I am back working on my side project, having interesting problems to solve (one more feature before bed!) and the bright screen, I am sta…

> This is hard for me because screen is life.

I find that a pretty depressing thing to read.

Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by atmosx » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 4:13 PM UTC

xor1 wrote: post #250

atmosx wrote: post #86

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D3 should be taken for small periods. Note that these supplements, do not make up for self-produced substances. I would like to ask you if instead of using melatonin to enhance your sleep, did you try physical exercise. If your body is physically tired and you abstain from screens (iPads, iPhones, etc.) for 2h before sleeping, you should be able to get a decent amount of sleep. Additionally, sleep quality doesn’t tra…

Sooo doing some exercise 2 hours before sleeping and not spending my last waking hours on my laptop did it. I got more than 7 hours of sleep for sure, and...also woke up feeling very tired. I know I have a huge sleep deficit built up, so that's fine. I'm hoping I can sleep as much tonight as well.

Yes it is normal. Your muscles will need to cope with the demand for oxygen and more time to rest. You might also feel some pain from the lactic acid. Ideally, exercise should be progressive to avoid these situations, but overall it's a welcomed trade-off if you ask me.

Good luck with everything!