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Tech Giants Take Their Talent Hunt to Cambridge, UK

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If you had 4x your salary, wouldn't you be spending a lot on keeping up your house, and paying a lot of taxes for local amenities like schools? I don't understand how an area that affluent could be a ghetto.

No property taxes are very low in the UK some one in a 10M house in London pays less than an upper middle class person does in some US states

And tenants are anyway liable for paying Council Tax, the property tax equivalent.

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I know a UK google employee who is a new college grad and gets 5 weeks of vacation per year on top of 8 bank holidays. And their salary is higher than most US Google new grads. They are working at a US company, but at least they are still paying UK taxes and contributing to the UK economy.

Do you mind saying what their compensation package is?

Very similar to a standard SV Google one except much more stock.

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There are only ten federal holidays. If you are working in the states, you get most of not all of them.

> There are only ten federal holidays. If you are working in the states, you get most of not all of them. MLK, Washington's Birthday, Labor Day, and Columbus Day are particularly frequently not granted by private employers. Columbus Day and MLK are each not given by some nonfederal public employers (to my knowledge, a non-overlapping set.)

Labor Day is most definitely granted, as is MLK, at the big techs.

I’m sure most full time employees get Labor Day off actually. That’s the whole point of it actually.

See:

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-12-paid-holidays-at-Googl...

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-paid-holidays-at-Microsof...

https://www.glassdoor.com/Benefits/Facebook-Paid-Holidays-US...

Re: Tech Giants Take Their Talent Hunt to Cambridge, UK

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post #201

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I know a UK google employee who is a new college grad and gets 5 weeks of vacation per year on top of 8 bank holidays. And their salary is higher than most US Google new grads. They are working at a US company, but at least they are still paying UK taxes and contributing to the UK economy.

I'd love to hear what sort of job a UK new grad would get at Google that would pay them more than their US equivalent. Every data point I've ever seen has shown Google UK employees are paid a lot less.

I think typically UK google employees make less than SV but also significantly more than most software jobs in the UK. The guy I know is really good and did research in undergrad related to a niche Google is interested in.

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15 is the bare minimum for USA tech companies. I've seen a few not so stellar places offer 10.

Maybe in the right subsections. But 10 days for the first 2-3 years is very common and many companies argue they need consistency across staff.. then others offer you more or infinite vacation then give you a manager from hell with absurd deadlines to make sure you don't take any. It's much nicer to live in a country with clear employment laws. (Particularly since not everyone around you will work in tech.)

Tech companies have to compete on 15. They can’t just offer fewer than Facebook google Microsoft Apple etc....

Some companies BS on unlimited vacation, but I ignore those unless I trust them alot.

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> According to the recruitment website Hired, the average tech salary in London is $78,000 a year, versus $142,000 in Silicon Valley. And this is one of the reasons for the brain drain that the mention before. Silicon Valley firms pay significantly more than the competition, and they are still paying almost half of what they do in the US. It isn't only about money, but it would be naive to deny it's impact on people'…

people do not think about it rationally. The money you earn in SF is mostly not your money, its the landlord's money. You can work in London, live outside the M25, and have 35 minutes commute time, in a train, and pay reasonably normal rent/mortgage. I am not sure if you can live outside SF and work in SF and spend less than 4 hours commuting eveyday. I've just received two offers one for permie £100k and £700/day for a contract, I'm pretty certain I would be left with more money here that I would in SF even if im on $180k. Being in SF with family/kids is a game over I guess.

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Why are UK tech salaries so low compared to the US?

Aren't the high US salaries themselves extremely location-specific? It's more like CA/NY vs rest of world in terms of salaries.

would be interesting to know, people talk about SF only, but how salaries look in places like Phoenix or in states like Wyoming, Montana and Vermont ? are there any sw jobs there ?

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I am thinking about moving from US to London. So, I am curious to know why you prefer UK to US despite the salary gap. Also, do you know how does their healthcare compare?

For one, our healthcare is free. Though many companies still provide private healthcare as a benefit. Personally I agree with OP, I wouldn't want to live in the US either. Mainly because capitalism has been taken to an ugly extreme and you might get paid more but you also work more etc. Not to mention the tax and tips culture. Of course there are problems here too; it rains a lot more, and every conversation that goe…

The major disadvantage of the UK is: Shoebox "houses". Or what we call them houses. So its raining a lot outside, but we also do not feel comfortable inside, at home, because it is ridiculously small and normally very old. bad weather and cage-homes, deeply depressing combination. Th main advantage of the US: Big homes (if you choose not to live in SF or NYC) and good weather.

Re: Tech Giants Take Their Talent Hunt to Cambridge, UK

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> According to the recruitment website Hired, the average tech salary in London is $78,000 a year, versus $142,000 in Silicon Valley. And this is one of the reasons for the brain drain that the mention before. Silicon Valley firms pay significantly more than the competition, and they are still paying almost half of what they do in the US. It isn't only about money, but it would be naive to deny it's impact on people'…

people do not think about it rationally. The money you earn in SF is mostly not your money, its the landlord's money. You can work in London, live outside the M25, and have 35 minutes commute time, in a train, and pay reasonably normal rent/mortgage. I am not sure if you can live outside SF and work in SF and spend less than 4 hours commuting eveyday. I've just received two offers one for permie £100k and £700/day fo…

This is just not true, I live outside SF and have kids and own a single family home. My pay here has exponentially gone up over the last 5 years, especially if you account for RSUs and so has my wife's. We are also able to change jobs every two years that results in decent pay increases. I also made a ton of money selling my previous home, and sit on a massive equity on my current home. There is a reason things cost a lot here. Because people can afford it.

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3 weeks is common for USA tech companies now. What is it in the uk?

15 is the bare minimum for USA tech companies. I've seen a few not so stellar places offer 10.

If you've seen places that offer 10, then 15 is by definition not the bare minimum. In my experience, most places offer 10 days, and often it's PTO (combined vacation + sick leave).
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