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America has a truck driver shortage

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Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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Not sure that I follow. Can you explain?

Just like in the software field, there might be a multitude of reasons women might not go into that industry including sexism and not being encouraged by family/society. Some of the industries that women work in can be just as bad in their own ways.

Every single thing has to be about feminism, somehow, doesn't it? Even a guy trying to relate to us about how the truck driving industry treats people badly - well gosh darn, it's not doing well enough if it's not treating women badly in an exact proportion to their population level.

I have to wonder if folks like yourself ever give it a rest and just actually read what someone has written without spending every second of it looking for a reason to get self-righteous.

Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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I couldn't read the article. I read most of the comments.

I'm a new truck driver, since March 1st of this year. I drive for one of the biggest trucking companies in the country.

When weather is bad, they call or message us to shut down. I've never felt any pressure 2 exceed the legally allowed number of driving hours. If you're going to be late for some legitimate reason, you let the company know, and you're then not considered late. They reschedule the appointment.

It's definitely a lifestyle that a lot of people would not want to do. I am unusual in that I enjoy my alone time. Yeah this is Extreme alone time, but I like it. There probably are not a lot of people like me, but probably more than you would think.

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I've lost 20 pounds since I started driving. Driving doesn't cause you to lose weight, but I knew weight gain is a problem, so I really focus on eating carefully. My truck has a refrigerator. I think it used to have a microwave, but I think the former driver gave it to himself as a going-away present.

Most problems are solvable. I plan on very slowly incorporating a few solutions to a few problems. My truck has a good inverter, so I have a coffee pot and I make my own coffee in the morning, it's cheaper than truck stop coffee and I like it better. I'll get a small microwave eventually, and possibly bring a Crock-Pot or similar.

I shop when I'm home, but that's usually not enough for the two or three weeks that I will be out. So when it's convenient to me I will drive to a Walmart, where they are Truck friendly, and stock up. Truckers also will sometimes Park overnight at Walmart, but not all of them allow it.

Pay to start is low, but larger companies recently, including mine, have begun to increase starting pay, and incorporate bonuses for existing. Pay increases regularly over quarters, but it will be a few years before you're making what you might call good money.

Right now I'm shut down for the night at a truck stop about a half hour north of Las Vegas on I-15, that Corridor that someone here said nee guys never get. This is not my first time on this route. This is my second Thousand Mile trip this week.

My only serious complaint is parking. I'm parked on the street across from the truck stop, because I got a late start and finished late. If the country hired any significant fraction of the trucker shortage, there would be no where to park. Drive down a major Interstate some night at 10 or 3 in the morning, and really look and see how many trucks are wedged into non parking spaces. We have to do it, because of hours of service regulations.

Everyone has anecdotes, pro and con, including me. Don't think that the article, or the comments here, give you good and accurate coverage of the subject. Everything everyone says here is probably true, for that person's experience. But like in any area, your mileage may vary.

[Apologies for Trump style random capitalization, my phone does that to me when I speech to text.]

Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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Yes. This is how a well functioning economy works.

exactly - if they truly have a trucking shortage, the prices of all the intermediaries will have to rise, including the end shelf-price. More short-term, Wallmart will either just discontinue that product or offer it elsewhere due to free movement of capital. We'll get just a couple brands of cereal at the supermarket, instead of 25.

Yes. That is point I have been making.

Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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At a rough point in my life, I was a truck driver for CR England and Knight Transportation for a few days short of 7 months. You don’t start at 80,000 a year. That’s such a lie. You make about 600 a week to start, roughly, depending if you get enough miles. You don’t get the good routes, staying in well populated areas like the i5 corridor, at first. You stay in the middle of no where Arizona, North Dakota, etc. You…

It sounds like an excellent job for a machine to do: dull, repetitive, damaging to humans. Use humans to do last-mile delivery of the goods, but let a machine do the open road.

Last mile can be some of the least fun part of the job. Getting in and out of town in traffic in a city you haven't been to, waiting hours or a day for someone to load it unload your truck. Other than trying to keep up with the dispatcher who forgets you aren't driving a racecar, the open road can be the nice part of the trip.

Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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Everyone of the x has at shortage articles are silly. We live in a capitalist society so pay more. Truck drivers or software engineers it applies risky. Or teachers and nurses. If you pay enough (and maybe have decent benefits) you will get qualified people. That's not part of the business model? Please go to a socialist country.

Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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The guys I meet who are pulling in good money are all union vocational workers. We're talking dump trucks, cement mixers, sometimes roll off (dumpsters/skips), and the holy Grail: heavy haul. I know a guy in New Jersey who works for a well known hauling and rigging company. Makes 130k/yr. Small shop of a dozen guys, no one makes under a 100k, and home just about every night. But good luck getting into those shops. Cr…

This is one of the main reasons I am so heavily in favor of UBI, even though I am quite the anarchist if we are talking about idealism and not pragmatism. There IS money being made out there by large firms and small firms alike, but it is absolutely NOT based on merit or skill at all. Whether a business is a failure or a success is 99% based on the relationships and contracts it forms. Typically, unskilled managers a…

> Whether a business is a failure or a success is 99% based on the relationships and contracts it forms. Typically, unskilled managers and executives will forge the deal FIRST, and then go get the expertise and skilled laborers after.

Maybe - forming the relationships and contracts and forging the deal - is a valuable skill too, and since I've been on a lot of interview panels - getting the skilled laborers and expertise to work for you is also another very valuable "skill".

Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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Just curious, how does cheating the books work for a driver?

The only one I’m familiar with is that you drive more than you report and that lets you take on more jobs. You’re not supposed to drive more than (for example) 14 hours / day for safety reasons but most drivers that pull six figures tend to have violated these laws fundamentally.

It may not be to take more jobs, it may be to keep the one you have. Say it takes 14 hours and 45 minutes and you can only log 14 hours drive time. How do you get the job done when dispatch is promising you'll be there? Start driving before you log the start of your day, log breaks when really you've been peeing in a bottle, log some time to inspect your truck when you are stuck in traffic. A little here and there. You can also fudge when you slept and start so you can get rolling sooner. The pressure to do this is huge. If you won't, someone else will, so you do it to keep your job.

Bonus, if you are caught the company doesn't care, they will hire someone else, but it sticks with your record.

Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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This is one of the main reasons I am so heavily in favor of UBI, even though I am quite the anarchist if we are talking about idealism and not pragmatism. There IS money being made out there by large firms and small firms alike, but it is absolutely NOT based on merit or skill at all. Whether a business is a failure or a success is 99% based on the relationships and contracts it forms. Typically, unskilled managers a…

You can be an anarchist and still be for UBI!

How can UBI exist without statism?

Re: America has a truck driver shortage

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What does "shortage" really mean? Isn't it just a matter of price?

Not if all the experienced drivers retire and there isn't enough young ones to fill their seats. Raising wages would help, but it still takes time to get people up to speed. Do you want the new guy in a hazmat tanker next to you on the freeway?
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