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You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by hutzlibu »

rocky1138 wrote: post #156
hutzlibu wrote: post #17

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Sadly ... driver Support. The main reason for me - standby and resume allways work and not only mostly ...

Take a look at System76. They make Linux laptops and have full hardware/driver support out of the box. https://system76.com/

I think I did checked them out. But I have a special use case, need Touchscreen, long batery life, rugged, small, lightweight ( ...for hiking and working Outdoor) Asus C213 was a perfect fit. Otherwise there are only windows devices avaiable with terrible linux Driver support at the moment.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by hutzlibu »

pjmlp wrote: post #195
vatueil wrote: post #186

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Yes, various parts use BSD/MIT/Apache licenses, e.g.: https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror/docs/blob/master/LICENSE That said, parent comments seem to be talking about two different topics. Later comment about Google switching the underlying foundation of Chrome OS from Linux to Fuchsia sounds plausible, while earlier comment complaining about Fuchsia being proprietary is nonsense.

It might not be proprietary, but if OEMs already only release updates at gun point with GPL, just wait until they get an OS with MIT like licenses given to them. It will be a big party.

Still does not make Fuchsia proprietary. There will be proprietary fuchsia bundles, sure, they are unfortunately standard with Android allready, but that was not the point.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by ericpauley »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #232
willtim wrote: post #216

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Modern plastic composites with carbon fiber / glass fibers can perform as well or better than metals with regard to strength-to-weight. Plastics also have many other properties that make it preferable for a laptop case. Apple have chosen aluminium to give the impression of build quality. The competition are too often judged by their plastic cases instead of other attributes, such as the lack of glued-in batteries and…

> Apple have chosen aluminium to give the impression of build quality. My MBP is going on 6 years old and I have not been gentle with it. In fact I have dropped it on concrete multiple times. It is dented and scraped, the hinge is crooked. It still works perfectly. My previous, plastic laptop (also a Mac) had to have its shell replaced twice (under warranty) in less time than that. You may feel that aluminum is not w…

Couldn't agree more. Dropped my last Macbook 7 feet onto concrete and (aside from a dent in the metal) it didn't even flinch.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by emiliosic »

While on the surface this is great, I also find it concerning in the way this is going. First, you can only access this feature (for now) on a Pixelbook. This is not Android where patches are delivered first on Google's own hardware, or is it? Then Chrome OS runs no 3rd party apps, but it runs Chrome 'Native' code, which is being phased out, where Chrome acted as a VM. I think Google wanted this to happen very much but opened all sort of backdoors into managed deployments of Windows and macOS. Then ChromeOS started supporting Android apps, although the experience is very much like running an emulator. Now it can run Linux on a VM. Fair enough, but it can run Linux only if it's Ubuntu. Ubuntu is fine but it's not the only choice for Linux, and with good reason.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by joombaga »

idonotknowwhy wrote: post #138
Volt wrote: post #126

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It's emulating the Windows libraries, not the CPU instructions.

That's like saying that Windows Explorer is emulating a filing cabinet with folders and files in it.

That also sounds like a correct usage.

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Post by Y_Y »

jacksmith21006 wrote: post #249
Y_Y wrote: post #243

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Looks like someone's been training an AI to shill on HN. Please post your code, I have ideas for fixes.

Sorry not following? "post your code"? What code?

I think you probably did follow, but just didn't like it. I thought your post just read like technobabble and I was being stupid and snide and implying it had been written by a bot with some commercial agenda.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by Mindwipe »

toast0 wrote: post #130
paultopia wrote: post #41

I think this is great. I bought a chromebook flip a couple of years ago, with the intention of putting Linux on it---only to find that the hardware is depressingly bad and the ARM processor makes the Linux experience terrible (had to install Arch, never did manage to make basic things like the JVM work right, eventually gave up on it). Since then, I've been very skeptical of the notion of buying chromebooks as cheap…

> Since then, I've been very skeptical of the notion of buying chromebooks as cheap and lightweight mobile working tools. You have to be careful about which processor powers your Chromebook if you want to do non chrome os things. The processors from the mainstream core line (Haswell, Skylake) etc do pretty well, although they're usually fairly low clocked. The chromebooks with Atom or ARM processors usually have a ha…

By the same token... if you want to run Android applications the situation is much worse on x86 processors, because while Android is supposed to be agnostic the reality is that there hasn't been any requirement for developers to target x86 market wise for a long time, and anything that goes remotely near direct graphics rendering or video DRM tends to break quite badly.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by [deleted] »

jacksmith21006 wrote: post #239
nickjj wrote: post #237

If anyone wants to run Linux apps on their Chromebook right now, you can just install GalliumOS. I think it's better than the VM solution that's mentioned in the article because GalliumOS gets installed natively, so there's no VM. You can choose to dual boot it with ChromeOS. It runs really well, and it's hyper optimized for Chromebooks. It's just a fork of xubuntu. I've been running it on my Chromebook for 2 years a…

You lose the security when using GalliumOS. Used all the methods to use GNU/Linux on a CB. From using Crouton, Gallium, GNURoot, Termux and now using this as have a PixelBook. In the US so our school uses Chromebooks which replaced all the Macs. Had to hack together a way to use the CBs for AP CS 1 and 2. But now it will have support built in. By far the best approach is what Google is doing here. Keep all the securi…

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Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by jmiller099 »

nickjj wrote: post #237

If anyone wants to run Linux apps on their Chromebook right now, you can just install GalliumOS. I think it's better than the VM solution that's mentioned in the article because GalliumOS gets installed natively, so there's no VM. You can choose to dual boot it with ChromeOS. It runs really well, and it's hyper optimized for Chromebooks. It's just a fork of xubuntu. I've been running it on my Chromebook for 2 years a…

agree with you, i have put gallium os as a dual boot on my Acer r11 chromebook and the laptop has become my primary computing device.

basically have three environments on it:

1 chrome with chromebrew shell and android apps

2 crouton for most linux needs

3 gallium for when i need VMs and other more finicky os interactions

if i could get some wifi drivers working under crouton and also sync with appropriate os header files each google sw update in order to install virtualbox i could forego galliumos.

under crouton was able to do a lot:

1 natively compile with gcc

2 cross compile for kindle paperwhite

3 cross compile for windows ce

4 cross compile for esp8266

5 cross compile for garmin connectiq

the author of the original article is funny about using a linux vm to compile apps for android and run in chromeos. because today i can use the android app named aide to build an android app on my chromebook and immediately execute it. no need for linux, vm, or crouton.

Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS

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Post by grover_hartmann »

pjmlp wrote: post #180
grover_hartmann wrote: post #161

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Yes, FOSS saving a close source platform, what's news? You are completely missing the point, my point was that Apple is so bad of a company that they completely refuse to ship with GPLv3 software, they are nothing but a bunch of immoral fascists. Take take take, but never give anything back. The GNU project did everything right by moving to GPLv3. And last time I checked, brew doesn't work so well when you have multi…

Actually it is FOSS saving FOSS developers using OS X as a Linux replacement for doing Linux development. OS X and iOS developers are pretty fine with the OS tooling.

> OS X and iOS developers are pretty fine with the OS tooling.

That's because they are "fine" with anything Apple does, I guess removing ports wasn't enough for them to see beyond their own stupidity.

OS X developers have to be the dumbest of them all, if Apple tells them to jump off a bridge they probably would too.

They are blind for a brand.

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