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Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by euyyn »

gfiorav wrote: post #179
antaviana wrote: post #31

"Basically, the code recurses a sha256 computation 1714 times to get a lookup key, and then once more to get a password for decryption." This is an Easter Egg. Barcelona fell on September 11, 1714 during the War of Spanish Succession and with that Catalonia's freedom as well. September 11 is the National Day of Catalonia. Also, at 17:14 of each and every game of FC Barcelona in Camp Nou Stadium, Barcelona fans claim…

Wasn’t this the succession war between Habsburg and Borbon dynasties? I’ve seen some depictions in paintings [1] where you can see soldiers from the Habsburg (wearing the Catalan berretinas) porting a Spanish flag... I believe it was more a war for two different models for Spain, not for independence or anything like that. Sounds like revisionism to me. [1] http://www.msde.es/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2-Embarque-de-…

It's also the war that made Gibraltar pass from Spanish to English hands.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by lederhosen »

monort wrote: post #236
lederhosen wrote: post #226

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So if they succeed to split would you call it tyranny not to let pockets of Castilian speaking minority areas in Catalonia claim independence? Maybe joining Spain? Where would this end (maybe there are pockets within the pockets within the pockets)? It is a practical shitty situation. Do not make it sound SIMPLE. Do not use the word tyranny when it does not apply. And the rich leaving the poor seems like a right wing…

What's wrong with independence of small groups? The more governments - the more competition. Why are we against big monopolies in every area, except the state services?

Where does the recursion end?

Should Catalonia accept independence from pockets where the majority wants to be Spanish?

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by StavrosK »

enriquto wrote: post #50
kilburn wrote: post #2

Author here. I've tried to keep the article as apolitical as possible, while giving some context to provide the setting. Anyway, I'm very interested in knowing if the used crypto is sound or not, and stirring a discussion around possible alternative approaches. Ask me anything if you want to know further!

being a catalan expat with some expertise in computers, is there any useful way that i can help this weekend? (I am not afraid of losing anonymity nor being condemned or prosecuted by the spaniards, I actually would find it rather amusing.)

Download and run the IPFS daemon for your OS (from ipfs.io) and access the banned websites/files locally. That will make you serve them to other people.

There's a set of them on the pinning service I run (https://www.eternum.io/ipns/QmZxWEBJBVkGDGaKdYPQUXX4KC5TCWbv...), so they're in no danger of disappearing, but you'd help in case Spain banned the eternum.io node.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by pepon »

elecbit wrote: post #229
pepon wrote: post #214

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No, that is not what is happening. Spain is a state where the majority of the people wants to belong to the state. Catalonia would be a state where half of the people wouldn't want to belong to it. I wonder if the future Catalan government will allow referendums so that such people will be able to split from Catalonia. Besides, not voting is also democracy. Most of the Spanish people don't want to allow these kind of…

I agree that "not voting is also democracy". However I cannot agree about not allowing to vote, which is the case. It's a political issue, which should be solved like it was in Scotland. In the name of what, a group can decide over another on what is it allowed to do? Because of the frontiers made after conquering when using force?

"In the name of what, a group can decide over another on what is it allowed to do?"

Of course that a group can decide over another group which is a subset of the former. Otherwise, any city of any country, or any group of individuals, could decide to vote and set their own rules for whatever they want.

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Post by euyyn »

elecbit wrote: post #235
euyyn wrote: post #190

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> Spain must respect fundamental rights in Catalonia. Freedom of expression, freedom of press and power separation Spain respects fundamental rights in Catalonia and anywhere else in the country; respecting them is the supreme law of the land. Anyone who violates those rights will have the courts after them the exact same way as the courts are acting against this referendum.

However, United Nations experts don't think the same as you. http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?Ne... Censorship in internet. Opening private letters. Political detentions and raids to political parties offices, searching for posters and ballots. Bringing 10000 policeman by boat to avoid a vote. Sound quite authoritarian to me.

I was actually quoting from your link. "The measures we are witnessing are worrying because they appear to violate fundamental individual rights". They are worrying because they appear to violate those rights. Of course, any such actual violation can be brought to court.

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Post by confounded »

confounded wrote: post #105
toomuchtodo wrote: post #94

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> If only there was a way to proxy through google.com or some other popular domain too important to block. Host IPFS nodes with http proxies on GCP and point the domain with multiple A records at those instances?

This is basically how Signal avoid being blocked in (IIRC) Saudi Arabia.

Ah, too late to edit, but it was Egypt and the United Arab Emirates (apologies).

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by euyyn »

goliatone wrote: post #241
euyyn wrote: post #190

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> Spain must respect fundamental rights in Catalonia. Freedom of expression, freedom of press and power separation Spain respects fundamental rights in Catalonia and anywhere else in the country; respecting them is the supreme law of the land. Anyone who violates those rights will have the courts after them the exact same way as the courts are acting against this referendum.

It could be argued that this platonic view is not very factual. If you look at how corruption is dealt with and the reticence to apply the same constitutional laws you can get a sense of how things work. There were numerous members of the royal house we could talk about, or politicians...

I mean, yeah. And a while ago a president pardoned a guy from the other party that had been sentenced to 10 years in prison for kidnapping.

I think there's still a stretch from "there are corrupt politicians and the monarchy and president have a lot of undue influence over the judiciary" to "Catalans don't have freedom of expressions or are oppressed".

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Post by brightball »

alwillis wrote: post #174
lloyd-christmas wrote: post #67

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150 years after the US civil war, the confederate flag is still flying around. I wouldn't be to hasty to call it eventual.

The Confederate flag was essentially banished until the 1960's in response to the Civil Rights movement.

For what it's worth, that was also the 100 year anniversary of the war. The two happened to coincide.

Even in South Carolina where there was so much controversy around having it at the state house...the reason it went up in the first place was supposed to be temporary (4 years) for that purpose alone.

That it never came down when it was supposed to the real issue.

Re: How the Catalan government uses IPFS to sidestep Spain's legal block

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Post by dangerbird2 »

euyyn wrote: post #247
lottin wrote: post #206

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The war was between European powers and had many ramifications in different places. For Catalonia the net result was that it lost its political institutions and became a province in a centralised state.

Out of curiosity, how do the Catalan constitutions Charles promised to uphold compare to the current autonomy? Also, is it historically accepted that, if Charles had won, he wouldn't have done the same to the other regions with fueros / constitutions?

The Crown of Aragon, which controlled the territories of modern-day Catalonia, was an independent state in all ways aside from military and foreign policy. The union of Castile and Aragon was a dynastic union, with very few shared institutions until the Kingdom of Spain was established in 1716. Aragon itself was a fairly decentralized state with constituent principalities having their own Corts and legal systems (rights referred to as "Furs" or "Fueros")
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